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re: Vietnam vets and Jane Fonda

Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:40 pm to
You know what Rex? You and your generation like to call my generation worthless, lazy, arrogant, and cowardly. That may be true for some in my generation. But your generation is without a doubt the most embarrassing generation in American history. Y'all are the most unpatriotic, lazy, entitled, pussy generation we've ever seen. And you yourself are a prime example of that.

You didn't almost serve. You didn't fricking serve. There is no almost serving. You either did or didn't and for you to try and wear that like a badge of honor is a disgrace to all those men who did serve and ESPECIALLY to all those 58,307 who died while fighting.

And to think most of your dads served in some capacity in WWII or Korea. Y'all should've been grateful that there were men before y'all who actually were patriotic and would serve this country. But instead y'all were so motherfricking arrogant and entitled that y'all pretty much said "frick you America" and turned your backs on her.

frick you. And frick your generation. I can't wait till y'all die off.
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:43 pm to
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That may or may not be true, but it's not our place to deprive other people of their own choices.


my dad chooses to call Jane Fonda a pinko commie bitch for her comments about the soldiers that didn't really have a choice but to fight.

why do you get to make choices for people yet bitch at those you perceive to make choices for people that are contrary to your misguided beliefs?
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:43 pm to
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You didn't almost serve. You didn't fricking serve. There is no almost serving.

Spoken like someone who wasn't there.
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And to think most of your dads served in some capacity in WWII or Korea.

The Vietnamese War was not the same as WWII nor Korea. It was a civil war in which we didn't belong.

Posted by Festus
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:45 pm to
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my dad chooses to call Jane Fonda a pinko commie bitch for her comments about the soldiers that didn't really have a choice but to fight.

why do you get to make choices for people yet bitch at those you perceive to make choices for people that are contrary to your misguided beliefs?

Homerun post.

Check that, grand slam.

Rex?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:45 pm to
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The Vietnamese War was not the same as WWII nor Korea.


if you were an E-3 infantryman, they were exactly the same thing.

Posted by Rex
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:45 pm to
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my dad chooses to call Jane Fonda a pinko commie bitch for her comments about the soldiers that didn't really have a choice but to fight.

In her broadcasts she specifically tells American soldiers and pilots it's not their fault.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:47 pm to
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why do you get to make choices for people yet bitch at those you perceive to make choices for people that are contrary to your misguided beliefs?


What choices have I made for people?
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:48 pm to
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Spoken like someone who wasn't there.


You're right, I wasn't there. But I am serving now and I am allowed to say that there is no "almost" when it comes to serving.

Also, the South Vietnamese pleaded with us to go there and help. Which we did because they were our allies. We didn't have to go to Korea. But the South Koreans are our allies and we have to help our allies.

You see, that's what you do when someone is your ally. You help them when they're in need.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:48 pm to
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But the smear of Jane Fonda should end.... now.
stfu
Posted by LSUMJ
BR
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:49 pm to
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The fact that this thread has gone ten pages proves that nobody here views me as dumb


everyone views it and most said it
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:50 pm to
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It was a civil war in which we didn't belong.


Well, it wasn't exactly, precisely, only a Civil War, now was it? LBJ's crackpot domino theory notwithstanding, the North WAS being propped up by the Soviets, including air defense, logistical support, interceptor aircraft (almost certainly including Russian pilots), training, ammo, weapons, intelligence, naval support, etc.

SO, there's that. Now, do I think we should have gotten involved? Probably not. Once the decision was made, in a republic, I would have been compelled to serve.

I've served in peacetime and war, on a volunteer basis. It has been an honor to serve my country under such difficult circumstances over the past 28 years. G-d knows, somebody had to do it.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:53 pm to
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Now, do I think we should have gotten involved? Probably not.

The most relevant part of your post.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:54 pm to
The war in Vietnam began before there was any "South Vietnam". We joined a war in progress.
Posted by Count Chocula
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:55 pm to
That "Intellectual Honesty and Rex" Thread lasted all of 30 seconds
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:55 pm to
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You're right, I wasn't there. But I am serving now and I am allowed to say that there is no "almost" when it comes to serving.

Apparently logic and the dictionary displease you. There was a military draft before your time.

Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
Member since Jul 2009
5993 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:57 pm to
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Why are you so afraid to post it on the Poli Board?

Something over there has you scared


A more likely scenario is that everyone on the Poli Board is wise to Rex's antics and are not giving him the attention he wants anymore. So he has decided to find a new set of posters to irritate.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:58 pm to
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That "Intellectual Honesty and Rex" Thread lasted all of 30 seconds

I admit to starting threads others here are too reluctant or too ignorant to start. I don't post for applause... don't need it in my life. I don't post for attention... I get plenty of that in real life. I post for controversy because debate and truth are important.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36665 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:59 pm to
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That "Intellectual Honesty and Rex" Thread lasted all of 30 seconds


I tried.
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5673 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 1:00 pm to
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In her broadcasts she specifically tells American soldiers and pilots it's not their fault.



the same thing the Viet Cong propagandists told the American soldiers

since it is apparently not obvious to some: 2 + 2 = 4
Posted by DaTroof
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2015
992 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 1:00 pm to
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it's not our place to deprive other people of their own choices.


Rex, you've made your point, and I agree that lies were told about Jane Fonda's actions during the Vietnam War. I believe that her words and actions that are not in dispute were still abominable. I agree that she has the right via the first amendment to free speech, but to your point that I've quoted above, you can't deprive people of hating or despising her for what she said and did. Again, I'm speaking of the words and actions that indeed she has taken account for.
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