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Victims of Allen Stanford may get some money back

Posted on 12/28/20 at 3:19 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 12/28/20 at 3:19 pm
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Stanford, a former Texas financier known primarily by his middle name, was convicted of fraud by a Houston jury in 2012 in what prosecutors called a $7.2 billion fraud that lasted two decades and which was eclipsed in size only by the Ponzi scheme run by Bernie Madoff.

About $50 million had previously been returned, the justice ministry said.

In October, the Swiss criminal court had rejected appeals against the seizure of the assets, paving the way for the remaining $150 million to be returned by the end of December, the ministry said.

Stanford, now serving a 110-year prison term, had stashed millions from his Antigua-based Stanford International Bank at the Swiss arm of French bank Societe Generale, which he tapped regularly to fund a fleet of private jets and a 100-foot yacht, according to U.S. District Court filings from 2012.

"The release (of the blocked funds) became possible after the American financier Allen Stanford's fraud conviction became permanent," the Swiss justice ministry said in a statement on Monday.

According to a 2012 sentencing memorandum, U.S. federal prosecutors said Stanford was a "ruthless predator" who routed $116 million in ... proceeds "through a Swiss slush fund he controlled at Societe Generale".

Societe Generale spent years fighting allegations that it had not adequately upheld its anti-money laundering obligations in accepting Stanford's money, Swiss court filings show.

A bank spokesman contacted by Reuters declined to comment on Monday.


I had a meeting in the same building as Stanford's BR offices the day that all went down. Weird to see the padlocked doors and the US Marshal's seal.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 12/28/20 at 3:21 pm to
It's on me, but I initially read this as "Victims of Alien..." and got excited. Only to click the thread and be disappointed.
Posted by dagrippa
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Posted on 12/28/20 at 3:21 pm to
gotta be peanuts...right?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 12/28/20 at 3:24 pm to
His fraud was alleged to be in the neighborhood of $7 billion, so yeah, a drop in the bucket.
Posted by SEClint
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 12/28/20 at 3:25 pm to
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$7.2 billion


Imagine trying to hide that in cash lol
Posted by Cash
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/28/20 at 3:26 pm to
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gotta be peanuts...right?


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a $7.2 billion fraud .... $150 million to be returned


yeah
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 12/28/20 at 3:27 pm to
The people who got screwed get $150 million out of over $7 Billion he stole? Sounds like the COVID bill going through Congress.

You know who didn’t get short changed? The Government or the lawyers.
Posted by Janky
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/28/20 at 3:28 pm to
I was eating lunch across the street from his office when it was raided. Had no clue it was happening. Walked outside to news trucks. That evening on the news I saw what was going on.
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 12/28/20 at 3:29 pm to
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I was eating lunch across the street from his office when it was raided.


Where was his office? I knew/know a few of the brokers in the Baton Rouge office, but was living in Dallas at the time it went down.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98198 posts
Posted on 12/28/20 at 3:31 pm to
People can be so greedy. Even people with more money than they could ever spend. This stuff is almost always blatantly phony and can be discovered with just a little bit of due diligence but people still fall for it. You're not going to get a 25% return on your investment with zero risk. If there was such a thing the Wall Street sharps would already be doing it.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 12/28/20 at 3:31 pm to
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Walked outside to news trucks.


Posted by Cash
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/28/20 at 3:35 pm to
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You're not going to get a 25% return on your investment with zero risk


I'm no expert, but I thought the returns Stanford's bank were offering on CD's were slightly better than average but not extravagant. I was under the impression he kept it reasonable to stay under the radar.

Again, I could be wrong.
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 12/28/20 at 3:37 pm to
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Where was his office?


The galleria.

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I knew/know a few of the brokers in the Baton Rouge office


My wife taught their kids at Dunham. Great families. They had to pay back lots of money.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 12/28/20 at 3:37 pm to
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Again, I could be wrong.
I find your lack of faith disturbing.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 12/28/20 at 3:39 pm to
Most of the street trees in downtown BR were donated by the Stanford Group.

Posted by Janky
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Posted on 12/28/20 at 3:40 pm to
I don't remember the exact numbers, but they were paying considerably more than the market through a bank in Antigua.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 12/28/20 at 3:41 pm to
You could be right. I was speaking generally.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/28/20 at 3:41 pm to
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The people who got screwed get $150 million out of over $7 Billion he stole? Sounds like the COVID bill going through Congress.

You know who didn’t get short changed? The Government or the lawyers.


That $150MM is before the attorneys have been paid. They’re paid from assets collected in the bankruptcy.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/28/20 at 3:51 pm to
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According to the most recent figures from Ralph Janvey, the court-appointed receiver rounding up funds for the victims, about $500 million of the roughly $5 billion in investor losses had been recovered as of Oct. 31, 2018. Of that, a court has approved about $224 million in fees and expenses for Janvey and his team. That leaves about $275 million — or about 5 cents on the dollar — for the victims.


From a CNBC article last year...
Posted by dagrippa
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Member since Nov 2004
11296 posts
Posted on 12/28/20 at 3:57 pm to
Janvey making out like a bandit
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