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re: Veterinarians and suicide
Posted on 7/11/19 at 1:13 pm to EST
Posted on 7/11/19 at 1:13 pm to EST
I know a vet and she said that the worst part of the job is people bringing in healthy pets to be euthanized because they are old and the owners basically don't want to deal with them anymore. And there's nothing she can do about it. Yeah, frick that shite.
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Posted on 7/11/19 at 1:17 pm to EST
UGA vet husband here.
Undergrad 4 years. In state. $40k.
Vet school 4 years $17k/yr. Also no such thing as part time job in vet school, so throw in some living expenses.
Zero dollars from parents.
Add in accrued interest.
My wife finished with about $240k.
Thank God for Obama's REPAYE.
Starting job out of school 75k plus production.
On track to make $~105k this year. Major market practice with higher prices, more affluent area.
One of the other docs is on suicide watch right now. And my wife is now on two brain meds she never needed before.
Undergrad 4 years. In state. $40k.
Vet school 4 years $17k/yr. Also no such thing as part time job in vet school, so throw in some living expenses.
Zero dollars from parents.
Add in accrued interest.
My wife finished with about $240k.
Thank God for Obama's REPAYE.
Starting job out of school 75k plus production.
On track to make $~105k this year. Major market practice with higher prices, more affluent area.
One of the other docs is on suicide watch right now. And my wife is now on two brain meds she never needed before.
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 7/11/19 at 1:21 pm to Make It Rayne
Actually no. We opened our 1st business in Crowley.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 1:23 pm to ShoeBang
I can't disagree with you on that.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 1:26 pm to EST
Big money comes when you start your own practice. Not bad for starting salary.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 1:28 pm to Weaver
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Not bad for starting salary.
you kidding ? that's fricking pathetic for having such a tremendous amount of debt to repay
Posted on 7/11/19 at 1:32 pm to celltech1981
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a vet and she had a huge chip on her shoulder about not being an MD
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she would try and convince people
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being a vet is not a respected profession.
So she was trying to convince people her profession was not respected?
Posted on 7/11/19 at 1:34 pm to EST
If you have HBO check out an episode of High Maintenance: Finger Butt.
It's in season 3, I believe.
Vet is contemplating suicide.
He micro-doses for happiness, then over does it.
Funny, and also a valuable voyeuristic-look-in on real life.
It's in season 3, I believe.
Vet is contemplating suicide.
He micro-doses for happiness, then over does it.
Funny, and also a valuable voyeuristic-look-in on real life.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 1:35 pm to Jim Rockford
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An MD gets paid more and doesn't have to contend with that.
To be fair, insurance for animals is rare and those procedures can be stupid expensive. I just spent about $1800 for my wife's cat to be diagnosed with asthma and to spend a few days in oxygen therapy @ $250 per day. That's probably not going to happen again if she goes into distress. The vets know that a lot of the decisions are financial, that's why most will readily supply guaranteed estimate ranges for services.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:05 pm to WildManGoose
Based on my medical career and owning various animals over the years I feel be a veterinarian is harder than being a doctor.Every animal is different in the medicines they can take,remembering what animals can take and what they can’t would be difficult.Dosing of medications varies depending on the animal.Spaying female puppy has to be more difficult than doing hysterectomy on a woman.
It has to be discouraging to make no more money than they do considering the years they spend in school,debt they incur and the long hours they work.
It has to be discouraging to make no more money than they do considering the years they spend in school,debt they incur and the long hours they work.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:09 pm to deeprig9
quote:
UGA vet husband here.
Undergrad 4 years. In state. $40k.
Vet school 4 years $17k/yr. Also no such thing as part time job in vet school, so throw in some living expenses.
Zero dollars from parents.
Add in accrued interest.
My wife finished with about $240k.
Thank God for Obama's REPAYE.
Starting job out of school 75k plus production.
On track to make $~105k this year. Major market practice with higher prices, more affluent area.
One of the other docs is on suicide watch right now. And my wife is now on two brain meds she never needed before.
Trying to understand here...
Debts:
UGA Undergrad - $40k
Vet school - $68k
Living Expenses and ??? over 4 yrs of Vet School - $132k
Total - $240k
Something seems off... How did she rack up so much in living expenses? Did she live like a college student or a soon to be MD? If I was racking up that kind of debt I would be living like a pauper while in school.
That is a terrible investment... I get it if that is what she is set on, but she could have gone into any kind of engineering or accounting or programming and would be doing as good or better with no graduate school.
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:18 pm to CivilTiger83
You forgot to include accrued interest.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:18 pm to Mootsman
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So she was trying to convince people her profession was not respected?
Yes. She didn't feel like being a freaking DVM was a respected profession. I was thinking jeeze lady try working at mcdonalds and see how much respect you get there.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:34 pm to EST
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:37 pm to EST
Restaurant I worked at before school had a regular. A older male Veterinarian. He came in already tipsy to get absolutely wasted... several times a week. So I believe this stat.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:41 pm to molsusports
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Pet insurance is not a widely used enough to spread out financial risk and dilute costs over time - so many people in the position of having to pay large sums for emergency care or significant supportive care for aging or ill patients have no good recourse to provide care - and that emotional pressure those owners may pass on to you can really crush your ability to feel good about your job. Even the clients who understand you didn't make their pet sick or medicines and medical devices expensive are still going to go through a normal grieving process that is going to scar you unless you have a bit of sociopathic immunity.
This has to be such a bummer. Definitely a thankless job. I’d imagine a good amount of them start down the path because they want to help animals get better, not be deciding factors in killing them quite often....and then actually having to kill them.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:53 pm to deeprig9
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You forgot to include accrued interest.
Accrued interest on the $40k in debt from UGA? That cannot be more than a couple thousand can it?
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:56 pm to CivilTiger83
Living expense and other expenses add up. Not sure what you're trying to figure out. I had a free ride for a three year degree and still had over $100k in debt (and the majority of my bachelors paid for).
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 7/11/19 at 3:24 pm to CivilTiger83
Accrued for all 8 years including an additional 6 months after all school is done because SLA/FAFSA doesn't allow you to start paying on them right after school even if you want to. "Forced" grace period. That alone is $7k for just that 6 months
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 7/11/19 at 3:45 pm to TheOcean
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Living expense and other expenses add up. Not sure what you're trying to figure out. I had a free ride for a three year degree and still had over $100k in debt (and the majority of my bachelors paid for).
How is that possible? No job? For undergrad I paid tuition with federal loans. I lived on a 5K Pell grant and a part time job at a sporting goods store. I finished about 30K in debt. Granted, I didn't pay car insurance or cell bill, but I could have.
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