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re: Vader’s Model Desk: PzKpfw VI Tiger I (early version)
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:24 pm to SmelvinRat
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:24 pm to SmelvinRat
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Now you have me breaking this out to play. Thanks!
What is this? It resembles the old Avalon Hill war games from the 70’s.
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Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:27 pm to Darth_Vader
Great work, Buddy. Does this one fire live rounds?
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:31 pm to FightinTigersDammit
1,347 built?
About one week of Soviet tank output
About one week of Soviet tank output
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:36 pm to chinese58
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Knispel was kind of the Sergeant Oddball of the Pnazerwaffe.
From what I’ve seen and read about him, they’re very similar.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:37 pm to LCA131
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Great work, Buddy. Does this one fire live rounds?
Only in my dreams.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:45 pm to sledgehammer
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I recently finished the book Barbarossa by Alan Clark.
That was a great book, but, it is so old now that historical scholarship has developed way past where things were when he wrote that book. It's OK, though because there are newer and better books to read. Besides, Clark's book is still pretty good, if not great, even today.
David Glantz's book on the Russo German War 41-45 has the most up to date facts.
We know so much more now about the War in the East than we did in the 1960s and 1970s.
This post was edited on 2/16/25 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:49 pm to Darth_Vader
That's a great model there. I don't understand the down votes. I don't judge a model on what type it is, I judge by the amount of work , detail, and care to attention that goes into a model. You have to respect the time invested to create such a model.
If you can't say something nice then be quite.
If you can't say something nice then be quite.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:50 pm to Champagne
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Champagne
Have you read “Battle of the Tanks - Kursk 1943” by Lloyd Clark? I’m halfway though right now. The first half of the book gives an overview from before Barbarossa up to the launch of Zitadelle. So far, it’s really good.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:52 pm to SantaFe
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That's a great model there. I don't understand the down votes. I don't judge a model on what type it is, I judge by the amount of work , detail, and care to attention that goes into a model. You have to respect the time invested to create such a model.
If you can't say something nice then be quite.
Thanks. Don’t sweat the downvotes. It’s just haters who don’t like me. They’re too chickenshit to say anything or identify themselves. They’re pussies. So they leave their meaningless down vote and sulk away like the little pussies they are. Frankly, I like knowing I bother them.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:59 pm to Darth_Vader
Sweet build. One of these days I'm going to break out my Rye Field Model Tiger I done up as Wittman's Tiger at Villers-Bocage.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:59 pm to SantaFe
quite
—Then I shall quietly point out your misspelled word.
—Then I shall quietly point out your misspelled word.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:02 pm to choppadocta
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Sweet build. One of these days I'm going to break out my Rye Field Model Tiger I done up as Wittman's Tiger at Villers-Bocage.
Thanks! I’ve got a late-version Tiger I still in my stash. I’ve thought about doing it at Whitman’s Tiger. No telling when I’ll get around to it. I haven’t counted lately, but I think I have somewhere around 120 or so kits in my stash to build. My plan is as I get closer to retirement in a few more years is to build up enough kits to last me.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:02 pm to Champagne
I’m looking at it now. Copyright 1965. He mentions that a lot of the Nazi and Soviet brass talked about are still living.
One of the most striking mentions is a footnote on Oskar Dirlewanger who led the infamous SS brigade in Warsaw. It said he bribed his way from the Allies after the war and is currently living in Egypt (1963).
It’s a little dated, but it’s neat having a book this old. Oh yeah, It’s now known that POS Oskar died in June of ‘45.
One of the most striking mentions is a footnote on Oskar Dirlewanger who led the infamous SS brigade in Warsaw. It said he bribed his way from the Allies after the war and is currently living in Egypt (1963).
It’s a little dated, but it’s neat having a book this old. Oh yeah, It’s now known that POS Oskar died in June of ‘45.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:16 pm to sledgehammer
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I’m looking at it now. Copyright 1965. He mentions that a lot of the Nazi and Soviet brass talked about are still living. One of the most striking mentions is a footnote on Oskar Dirlewanger who led the infamous SS brigade in Warsaw. It said he bribed his way from the Allies after the war and is currently living in Egypt (1963). It’s a little dated, but it’s neat having a book this old. Oh yeah, It’s now known that POS Oskar died in June of ‘45.
Yeah, there was a lot of disinformation put out after the war, especially by the Soviets. The Battle of Kursk is a prime example. It was portrayed by the Soviets as them absorbing this massive German panzer attack and crushing it. The tank Battle of Prokhorovka was made out to be this massive clash of huge numbers of charging Tigers and counter-charging T-34s bravely knocking them out at point-blank range.
But that’s really a myth. The truth is the commander of the Soviet 5th Guards Tanks Army, General Rotmistrov, launched a stupid counter attack against the II SS Panzer Corps and got a huge portion of his command obliterated. To cover up the debacle, he massively overstated German losses to make it look like he all but destroyed three SS panzergrenadier divisions. The reality though was after Rotmistrov‘s stupid attack, II SS Panzer Corps was poised to resume their advance and 5th Guards Tank Army would not have been able to stop them. What saved his arse was the Allied landings in Sicily had caused Hitler to lose his nerve and called a halt to the offensive and pulled II SS Panzer off the line to prepare to move to the Italian front.
This post was edited on 2/16/25 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:32 pm to Darth_Vader
Darth, you sure know your history. Write a book, and I’ll buy a copy.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:41 pm to sledgehammer
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Darth, you sure know your history. Write a book, and I’ll buy a copy.
I may do that in my retirement years in between building models and galavanting with Mrs. Vader.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:42 pm to Darth_Vader
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No problem. Even after the introduction of the T-34/85, in 1 on 1 contest, the Tiger would absolutely slaughter Soviet tanks; with some Tiger battalions having kill ratios around 15 to 1. I saw a stat once that something close to 75% of Soviet solders who were assigned to tanks (they didn’t get to choose) became casualties during the war, most of them being KIA.
Beautiful job as always OP, I will never understand the downvotes here.
The Soviets quietly preferred late model Shermans to their own T-34, Their best Red Guards unit that led the advance into Berlin was in Shermans.
If you have ever been around a T-34 and a Sherman, or watched the numerous videos (Chieftain does a good job), what you will find is that the T-34 is extremely hard to get out of fast, whereas the Brits, as one example, drilled to clear out of a Sherman in less than 15 seconds after a hit. US ammunition typically took just over a minute to start burning catastrophically after a hit. In later Shermans where it was stored in water-filled compartments, it took quite a while to start burning badly.
Conversely, a T-34 crew was almost always KIA because they were packed in there like sardines and it was hard to get out. Sherman crews survived penetrating hits at an 85% clip, the best estimates for T-34 crews on the same stat is something like 17%.
This post was edited on 2/16/25 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:45 pm to TigerHornII
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Conversely, a T-34 crew was almost always KIA because they were packed in there like sardines and it was hard to get out. Sherman crews survived penetrating hits at an 85% clip, the best estimates for T-34 crews on the same stat is something like 17%.
As was the case with their infantry, Soviet tankers were little more than cannon fodder.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:58 pm to Darth_Vader
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I may do that in my retirement years in between building models and galavanting with Mrs. Vader
Have you ever thought willing over your models to a museum after you pass so they don’t get destroyed? It’s been a while, but the USS Lexington has a huge room aboard their ship dedicated to all different sorts of WWII models.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 8:07 pm to Darth_Vader
Good stuff as always darth. Tiger was a beast
Thankfully, it wasn’t a war winner.
Thankfully, it wasn’t a war winner.
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