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re: Vader’s Model Desk: Messerschmitt Bf109-G

Posted on 8/22/25 at 10:41 pm to
Posted by chinese58
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Posted on 8/22/25 at 10:41 pm to


Down goes ME109!
This post was edited on 8/22/25 at 10:44 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/22/25 at 10:44 pm to
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According to this site, they used licensed replica Messerschmitt Bf109-G's, called Hispano Aviación HA-1112's, in Dunkirk.


Yeah, I think the Spaniards used both the BF109 and HE111 well after WWII.

One thing I’ve found ironic is that when Israel was founded, one of the first fighters they equipped their Air Force with was a modification of the BF109G…



And some of their earliest combat was against the Egyptian Air Force that had Spitfires…

Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 8/22/25 at 11:26 pm to
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It was commonly called the Me 109 by Allied aircrew and some German aces/pilots, even though this was not the official model designation.


I have an acquaintance who's father was 45th infantry in WWII. He has a CZ 27 from a shot down Luftwaffe pilot his father took of the Luftwaffe pilot.

When I ask him what kind of plane was shot down. His quote was: "Back then, to all them guys they were ALL Messerschmitts
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/22/25 at 11:41 pm to
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When I ask him what kind of plane was shot down. His quote was: "Back then, to all them guys they were ALL Messerschmitts


Yeah. I think that’s kinda the same thing as GI’s called every panzer they encountered a Tiger. But in reality, Tigers were actually quite rare on the Western Front.
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
8528 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 11:49 pm to
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Yeah. I think that’s kinda the same thing as GI’s called every panzer they encountered a Tiger. But in reality, Tigers were actually quite rare on the Western Front.


Right..





Posted by Jim Ed Love
Deep East Oklahoma
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:05 am to
Growing up (late 60's early 70's) could barely afford the models let alone the paint, so they just got built to what ever the plastic color was be it airplane, car, or tank models.

All military models after being built met the same fate--to see how fast they could be blowed up with a Cobra or Black Cat firecracker.

Excellent work by you model builders.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60572 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 4:50 am to
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The E2 was the first to have the nose cannon.


Not sure if it was the Germans or military in general but I thought they were the first. Think it started with 20mm cannon then grew over time. Since tank armor were meant to stop horizontal shells, they had less armor on the top of the turret. Thin armor on the top of the turret was a perfect spot to attack vertically from the air.

In the desert my old man said both sides wasted nothing when it came to supplies so they made the German POW's piss in the radiators on the Allied vehicles to save water. He came back with a German officers pith helmet (his initials on the leather band inside) for me from the desert but my mom got rid of it as she did not want it in the house. She also made him get rid of his Indian after the Depression and War.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Member since Jul 2012
31602 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:02 am to
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Growing up (late 60's early 70's) could barely afford the models let alone the paint, so they just got built to what ever the plastic color was be it airplane, car, or tank models.

All military models after being built met the same fate--to see how fast they could be blowed up with a Cobra or Black Cat firecracker.


Are we cousins?
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60572 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:20 am to
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All military models after being built met the same fate--to see how fast they could be blowed up with a Cobra or Black Cat firecracker.


M - 80's (the old REAL ones)
Lighter Fluid (everybody's dad had a Zippo)
Pipe bombs
Old lady hairspray
Gasoline (every house had a can in garage and another in the trunk)
sand / dirt mound in the backyard (dad's always had a project / bomb shelter to build)
etc
etc

Post WW II Boy Scouts taught you to build & destroy most anything!
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
31602 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:24 am to
^^^^ You forgot BB guns....
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60572 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:48 am to
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^^^^ You forgot BB guns....


YES!!

(along with shotguns and goose guns for distance destruction)

Slingshots
Vampy Bites (granny's hairpins fired with rubber bands)
Old school tater guns and cannons (nothing like a spud to destroy at distance)
Edmund Scientific consumer optics to start fires and ignite concrete
Tennis Ball cannons (made with sealing tape and dads old beer cans)

Church key steel beer can (steel) tops and bottoms. You used the base can with church key hole in top and made another at the bottom on the side. Used a hand can opener to take the top and bottom off the next 4 or 5 then stacked them and taped them and bingo, you had a tennis ball cannon! Some of dad's Zippo fluid and you were in business! NEVER USE GASOLINE (allegedly) as apparently that almost put several wee lads in the hospital / morgue and removed most of their body hair.

When the pull tab was introduced to beer cans it was a bonus for a kid with time on their hands as it was recycled to make CHAIN MAIL for body armor.


Kids today have no imagination or clue what they missed out on
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
31602 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:55 am to
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NEVER USE GASOLINE


Red paper strip caps for cap guns hit with a hammer will ignight gasoline....
This post was edited on 8/23/25 at 6:56 am
Posted by RTM4
Pflugerville
Member since Apr 2018
2252 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 7:49 am to
We used rubbing alcohol for the tennis ball cannons. Back then that stuff was like 95 % not that cheap arse 40% they make now.
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
10544 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 8:01 am to
The bad guys just have the coolest equipment and unis.
Posted by CharlesUFarley
Daphne, AL
Member since Jan 2022
888 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 11:27 am to
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best on planet earth.


Have you ever worked for a German company before? Or done a major project with one?

Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60572 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 11:44 am to
Zippo fluid was our go to

Douse the Tennis ball fuzz in same fluid and you had a Flaming Tennis Ball cannon. Somewhere in the 70's / 80's the companies figured it out as the beer cans went aluminum and the bottom was curved and the top may have gotten smaller. Metal tennis ball packaging was replaced with plastic. Zippo fuel was replaced with butane.

Only thing that probably stills works is electrical tape / duck tape / modern Gorilla Tape to bind the seams and strengthen the overall cannon.
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