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re: Vaccinated easily spreading Delta with troubling high viral loads...
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:27 pm to loopback
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:27 pm to loopback
quote:no no and no
Would you be ok with a company mandating its employees to take an experimental drug? Or get a tattoo? Or change religious beliefs?
But I would fire a guy who’s religion involved harming others or his religion hindered productivity.
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Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:28 pm to tigerfoot
quote:
So employment isn’t a basic human right as you insinuated?
Are you high?? I never insinuated that. I said coercion into altering my body or lose my career, insurance, means of supporting my family, is unethical and immoral.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:28 pm to tigerfoot
why not fire smokers? they need a 15 minute smoke break every hour. surely that cuts into productivity.
or pregnant women? they just get 3-6 months of vacation paid for by the company? what do i do with that position for 3-6 months?
or pregnant women? they just get 3-6 months of vacation paid for by the company? what do i do with that position for 3-6 months?
This post was edited on 8/21/21 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:30 pm to tigerinthebueche
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I think it’s time to address the questionable early treatment protocols doctors are using on patients. Maybe they need to do a tad more than send you home and tell you to go to the hospital when you think you’re worse. By then it’s too late.
You damn right. This exactly. It’s absolutely mind boggling the stupidity going on.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:30 pm to tigerfoot
quote:
But I would fire a guy who’s religion involved harming others or his religion hindered productivity.
Really? That's your stance? My lack of a vaccine is harming others? Hindering productivity? I work from HOME jackass.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:30 pm to Willie Stroker
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Then take a look at last year when doctors were late to realize that putting Covid patients on ventilators was not such a good idea.
You might want to try to have a conversation with an ICU doc about that. It is far more complex of a situation than you make it sound.
Venting didn't kill them lack of effective therapeutics is what left vents as a last-ditch measure. Through trial an error which is expected for a novel virus that didn't respond like most respritory viruses super high flow O2, ECMO and bipap began to move themselves to the front of the line. Early COVID patients got a bad roll of the dice, they crapped out when there was basically no information on the disease and they were literally guinea pigs but all the doctors could do is shoot their best somewhat blind shot.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:30 pm to loopback
quote:unknown and believe are key words fricknut.
YOU should reread the bold before saying it doesn't
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:32 pm to loopback
quote:always?
I work from HOME jackass.
Do all employees?
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:33 pm to tigerfoot
quote:EEOC finna eat.
But I would fire a guy who’s ... religion hindered productivity.
This post was edited on 8/21/21 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:33 pm to Klark Kent
quote:I have.
why not fire smokers? they need a 15 minute smoke break every hour. surely that cuts into productivity.
Next question
quote:talk to your lawmakers hoss.
or pregnant women? they just get 3-6 months of vacation paid for by the company? what do i do with that position for 3-6 months?
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:34 pm to tigerfoot
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unknown and believe are key words fricknut.
So the CDC says it doesn't alter DNA. The article says that DNA alteration is unknown and some scientists believe it does.
See how that's DIFFERENT? Jesus man are you that obtuse?
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:36 pm to tigerfoot
it’s a shite take and you know it. what about the Indians in the Help Desk center who spend an hour a day in the Prayer Room? You firing them too?
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:36 pm to tigerfoot
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always? Do all employees?
Yes and no. What does it matter if all employees do or don't?
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:44 pm to loopback
Yes and no? So you don’t strictly work from home? It matters how all employees are treated. Folks want to talk about wrongful termination.
A big ol reason for being sued is inconsistent application of policies.
A big ol reason for being sued is inconsistent application of policies.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:46 pm to loopback
quote:
So the CDC says it doesn't alter DNA. The article says that DNA alteration is unknown and some scientists believe it does
It was a poorly written article if you look at the link that they suggested supported DNA reverse transcriptase it was actually about the COVID virus itself not the vaccine. The person they quoted said there was no evidence of reverse transcriptase. But he did discuss the possible ability to use mRNA viruses designed for the purpose and how revolutionary it would be.
Find a scholarly article, hell even a preprint that supports the idea DNA can be altered. There is just no mechanism present in the two mRNA that could allow them to cross the cell membrane.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:46 pm to loopback
quote:Why is there a distinction? Do you feel entitled to your current position?
I'm not SEEKING employment. I AM employed.
quote:
It's coercion into a violation of basic human rights.
We should force employers to hire and maintain employees who refuse to comply with policy?
quote:Why would I do that?
Would you be ok with a company mandating its employees to take an experimental drug?
quote:Or that?
Or get a tattoo?
quote:Or this?
Or change religious beliefs?
quote:Again I see that you feel entitled to your current position. You are not. Companies change policies all the time.
If the mandate was "all new employees must be vaxxed then fine. But to force people to alter their own bodies or lose their entire careers is unethical and immoral and you know it.
quote:I am ok with companies enacting policies which promote health and safety among their employees and customers. This is kind of SOP, much of it required by law.
And again you ignore the question. I asked if you were ok with companies doing that.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:50 pm to Klark Kent
quote:What are you talking about? Employers don't have to give additional break time to smokers or keep paying someone who isn't getting the job done.
why not fire smokers? they need a 15 minute smoke break every hour. surely that cuts into productivity.
quote:That's a completely different issue.
or pregnant women? they just get 3-6 months of vacation paid for by the company? what do i do with that position for 3-6 months?
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:51 pm to Klark Kent
quote:They don't have to allow exceptions for extra break time. You can't claim "religion" to get around any legal policy that you want.
what about the Indians in the Help Desk center who spend an hour a day in the Prayer Room? You firing them too?
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:55 pm to Korkstand
quote:If you have, for example, a Muslim employee who needs to take a break for prayer times, yes, that is considered a reasonable accommodation under federal law and probably every state civil rights act.
They don't have to allow exceptions for extra break time. You can't claim "religion" to get around any legal policy that you want.
They don't get "extra break time", but they can have their breaks scheduled to accommodate their religion.
This post was edited on 8/21/21 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:55 pm to Korkstand
wrong
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