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re: Utah’s new DUI laws-“no alcohol sales” on license

Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by DustyDinkleman
Here
Member since Feb 2012
20025 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:10 pm to
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Who gets carded?


People who don’t smoke a pack a day
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
34515 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:16 pm to
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Walked into a sweet bar in downtown SLC 18 months ago without scanning just to get in but they did ask for my ID at the bar.


The law just changed.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
36972 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:28 pm to
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The law just changed.


I saw that. Not shocked.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23776 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:49 pm to
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Do they still cap ABV in beer? Bud heavy 3.2% or similar?


In bars, restaurants, and normal stores with alcohol, it's like 4 or 5%. You can get higher ABV beer but you have to go to a state run liquor store.
This post was edited on 1/7/26 at 1:54 pm
Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
85533 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:57 pm to
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The alcohol laws in Utah are far different than we are used to for sure. They have to run your ID through a scanner to verify you just to get into the bar. Every mixed drink is controlled by a device they put onto the bottle to measure an exact ounce. Data from the device is uploaded to their alcohol governing body. You also cannot order more than one single drink at a time. You cannot order a beer and a shot for example at the same time. You order the shot, finish it, and then you can order the beer. The same goes for ordering multiple drinks even if it's for someone with you. They have to be at the bar with you and/or order their own drink.


And for this reason(s) I'm out
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23776 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 2:20 pm to
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And for this reason(s) I'm out


You shouldn't. Utah is really awesome and just as naturally beautiful as Colorado despite the arcane liquor laws.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38339 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 2:53 pm to
I don’t agree with this at all. Consuming alcohol wasn’t the crime. Driving under the influence was. That distinction matters.

Taking someone’s driver’s license is fine because driving is a privilege. Restricting the purchase of alcohol is different. Adults don’t need a license to buy it, and banning lawful commerce starts drifting from punishment into preemptive behavior control.

This is much easier to justify as a condition of probation or parole. Judges can restrict otherwise legal conduct while someone is still serving a sentence. Once that period ends, stamping a “no alcohol sales” marker onto an ID looks like a restriction on rights. It creates a subclass of adults barred from legal commerce based on past offenses.

That’s legally awkward and philosophically sloppy and once the state starts restricting lawful behavior because someone might reoffend, it shifts the system from punishing crimes to managing people which is antithetical to limited governance.
Posted by Raoul Stimulato
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Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 2:54 pm to
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Every mixed drink is controlled by a device they put onto the bottle to measure an exact ounce


This is called a “metered pour” my friend.

Mixes drinks suck arse here.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38339 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:02 pm to
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This is actually not a bad idea at all…abuse alcohol you lose your privilege to buy alcohol.
That framing is backwards under how rights work in the U.S. system. Adults don’t have a “privilege” to buy alcohol in the way they have a privilege to drive. Driving is licensed. Alcohol consumption isn’t. The default is that the government needs a reason to stop you, not that you need permission to participate.

Most everyday freedoms here are negative rights. They’re defined by what the government can’t prohibit absent a new offense or ongoing sentence. DUI is a crime. Drinking alcohol is not. Taking someone’s driver’s license makes sense because driving only exists as a state-granted privilege. Restricting access to lawful commerce after the sentence ends is a different animal.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11935 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:10 pm to
We have a cousin in Ohio who is a drunk and has lost his license. I hope this idea spreads because it might keep him off the roads. Common sense doesn't work with him.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
139439 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:11 pm to
Do places look at your ID if you are 40?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38339 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:12 pm to
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Do places look at your ID if you are 40?
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On January 1, 2026, a new law will go into effect that will restrict people who have an extreme DUI conviction from buying alcohol. The law will also require all people — regardless of age or appearance — to show their IDs when purchasing alcohol.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
139439 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:53 pm to
Good then. Should be for any dui.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
33505 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:55 pm to
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In Utah, they have to scan your ID for every alcohol purchase you make before the system allows the clerk to complete the purchase.


Ah, well that explains it
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18062 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:57 pm to
I can hardly find anywhere to sell booze anyway when i'm in Provo.
Posted by Raoul Stimulato
Hale Bopp Comet
Member since Sep 2022
2317 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 3:59 pm to
State liquor store on Freedom.

Next Door as part of Block Restaurant is best place to drink in Provo.
Posted by RonFNSwanson
1739 mi from the University of LSU
Member since Mar 2012
24269 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 4:00 pm to
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This is much easier to justify as a condition of probation or parole. Judges can restrict otherwise legal conduct while someone is still serving a sentence. Once that period ends, stamping a “no alcohol sales” marker onto an ID looks like a restriction on rights. It creates a subclass of adults barred from legal commerce based on past offenses.


That is what is happening. They are banned from buying "for a period of time" (guess that depends on the judge)... Not forever.

Also, not sure if anyone actually read it, this is for "extreme dui" of .16 or higher. Which if you are doing that here you are a retard. The legal limit is .05, and the penalties are harsh enough for that.
This post was edited on 1/7/26 at 4:05 pm
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