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re: USW strike...** POSSIBLE END IN SIGHT **
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:47 am to Asgard Device
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:47 am to Asgard Device
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I don't know if the unions' demands are reasonable or not, but if the employers don't like it then they can get their labor from somewhere else.
if this were the system, i'd be all for it. sadly, it's not. the union is just gaming our massive federal bureaucratic bullshite
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Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:48 am to Paige
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I've never seen one of those stickers and been in oil and gas 7 years
Must be a south la thing. But I get what you're saying
I've been in it longer and don't find many people in the industry embrace/promote that image at all. Yeah you may see a bumper sticker once in a while, but it's not prevalent.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:50 am to tigerinthebueche
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I've been in it longer and don't find many people in the industry embrace/promote that image at all. Yeah you may see a bumper sticker once in a while, but it's not prevalent.
let's check out the foreclosure rate in the lafayette metro area the next 6 months, then
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:50 am to stout
I have one for you. Entergy is a major source of electricity for the refineries in Lake Chuck. They also purchase the Pet Coke (byproduct of refining) to burn for steam generation.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:51 am to SlowFlowPro
Laffy already has a pretty high foreclosure rate and I suspect a lot of it has to do with that lifestyle.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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even if you want to make that argument, pretty much everyone has been taking that paycut since about 2005
You mean outside of O&G right.
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you're not special...especially now that the O/G industry is cratering
Has refining taken a hit?
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:52 am to stout
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Laffy already has a pretty high foreclosure rate and I suspect a lot of it has to do with that lifestyle.
Granted it is a huge jump to make Stout, but you business could take a hit in the long run.
Look at Detroit where banks have said frick it to maintaining forclosures.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:54 am to stout
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Laffy already has a pretty high foreclosure rate and I suspect a lot of it has to do with that lifestyle.
pretty much
even in the "good times" people get blacklisted, hurt (comp only pays a portion of the salary), etc
that's the whole narrative of that area. amazing during the good times but they get hit HARD during the bad times
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:54 am to Stexas
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I have one for you. Entergy is a major source of electricity for the refineries in Lake Chuck. They also purchase the Pet Coke (byproduct of refining) to burn for steam generation.
The refineries aren't going to shut down and will still need the Coke and power.
Just trust me when I say that it won't affect either of them.
My dad has been there for 25+ years way back from when it was GSU and my bro is going on 12. They are both in very stable management positions in the plant. My dad will actually retire this year probably.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:55 am to lsuconnman
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quote: What job does the OT not hate and doesn't mind if they make more than minimum wage? It seems like this board thinks everyone is overpaid and rejoices in their plight. Yet they post all day on the OT and claim to get paid 6 figures.
...You forgot to add they all have unique skills that make them irreplaceable, and if they're unhappy with their job, they can quit at any given moment, immediately set their price and start working for their employer's competitors.
And could retire right frickin now if they really wanted to!
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:56 am to fightin tigers
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You mean outside of O&G right.
to an extent...O/G had a fall around 08, too
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Has refining taken a hit?
it's going to take some hits, but it's for sure more stable than production/drilling (aka, lafayette)
but that just puts it outside of the O/G bubble, which puts it back into this:
pretty much everyone has been taking that paycut since about 2005
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:56 am to fightin tigers
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Granted it is a huge jump to make Stout, but you business could take a hit in the long run.
Look at Detroit where banks have said frick it to maintaining forclosures.
That's not happening anytime soon and banks still take care of marketble areas of Detroit as well as several other areas of Michigan. They simply don't go into the ghettos up there. The burbs are still maintained. I know people in the industry up there.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:58 am to stout
the discussion went from Lafayette to...Detroit?
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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the discussion went from Lafayette to...Detroit?
Yea I answered his post but that was a crazy leap to make.
This post was edited on 2/1/15 at 9:59 am
Posted on 2/1/15 at 10:00 am to SlowFlowPro
From what I've been hearing, shell is fine with the pay increase, it's the other issues.
This post was edited on 2/1/15 at 10:01 am
Posted on 2/1/15 at 10:00 am to stout
yeah that's like a 20-30 year path 
Posted on 2/1/15 at 10:00 am to FightinTigersDammit
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have unique skills that make them irreplaceable
Like sleeping through the night shift?
Posted on 2/1/15 at 10:02 am to brass2mouth
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it's the other issues.
things like health care and retirement are always the biggest issues with these things
i always believe that if unions want to make it an issue, unions should be responsible for the health care and retirement of their members
have employers contribute certain set amounts to the unions for the unions to purchase group health insurance and invest for retirement
move the risk from the employer to the side representing the workers, demanding these products/services
Posted on 2/1/15 at 10:02 am to Teauxler
No need for unions because all workers are protected now A days. Even horses on movie sets are protected. If the oil companies are taking away your constitutional rights then sue them. What is that, unions aren't constitutional rights, unions were just for a time a hundred years ago when you couldn't sue. Well, now A days you can sue, so no need for unions
This post was edited on 2/1/15 at 10:03 am
Posted on 2/1/15 at 10:03 am to SlowFlowPro
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to an extent...O/G had a fall around 08, too
Was this due to demand or other factors. Honestly don't know. With the economy picking back up demand will be high, meaning way more profits.
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it's going to take some hits, but it's for sure more stable than production/drilling (aka, lafayette)
Extremely stable. Part of the benefit of working at a refinery rather than in the field.
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but that just puts it outside of the O/G bubble, which puts it back into this:
pretty much everyone has been taking that paycut since about 2005
Pretty much is the key term. If profits keep going up for your company why would you convince yourself to take a paycut?
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