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re: Used cars - Is there really a difference between highway and city miles?
Posted on 8/17/15 at 8:56 am to TIEF
Posted on 8/17/15 at 8:56 am to TIEF
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I know plenty of people in the "car" business and they encourage buying rentals if you buy used.
I don't think I've ever heard a single wholesaler or manager ever say those words.
Rental car miles are hard, hard, miles. Most rental companies don't do any maintenance b/c they wholesale the cars so quickly.
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Posted on 8/17/15 at 8:59 am to The Mick
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I get that but seems like more of a selling point or marketing buzzword than a real thing
Would you buy a 100k mile car if driver commuted to work rather than if he didn't?
I'd be expecting a significant discount on a car with high miles that was driven on the highway.
I wouldn't purchase a car with high miles that was driven in stop and go type traffic.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 9:20 am to The Mick
Lnchbox
I'm just passing on what I was told. I don't own a rental car but I would consider buying one if I was going to buy used.
People do not realize many cars at carmax and big dealer lots were rental cars.
Yes the do perform maintenance, they're not doing major jobs but they're changing oil, brake pads etc. According to the manufacturer.unlike most private car owners.
As discussed earlier it is not just miles but time that wears a car, so obviously a year old car with 35k miles is most likely being driven on long trips regularly or there could not be that many miles in that short of a time period
I'm just passing on what I was told. I don't own a rental car but I would consider buying one if I was going to buy used.
People do not realize many cars at carmax and big dealer lots were rental cars.
Yes the do perform maintenance, they're not doing major jobs but they're changing oil, brake pads etc. According to the manufacturer.unlike most private car owners.
As discussed earlier it is not just miles but time that wears a car, so obviously a year old car with 35k miles is most likely being driven on long trips regularly or there could not be that many miles in that short of a time period
This post was edited on 8/17/15 at 9:29 am
Posted on 8/17/15 at 9:27 am to The Mick
quote:Only if it were verifiable.
would that actually make much difference to you if buying a used car?
quote:Depends on the car. Some cars are nothing but trouble after 100,000 and some are just getting warmed up.
High miles is still high miles in my judgment
Having a good service history would mean more to me than highway v. city miles.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 9:28 am to TIEF
Yea I bought a used car from dealership once and saw it was rental originally. I was put off a bit but they said rental cars must stick to oil change and service intervals to a T for insurance/liability purposes. Makes sense I guess
Posted on 8/17/15 at 9:32 am to LNCHBOX
While the difference in that explorer and suburban likely has something to do with driving conditions, the primary difference is that the suburban is a better manufactured vehicle with a superior engine.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 9:45 am to The Mick
Yes. On the highway you're at a constant speed, not using brakes, not accelerating hard, etc.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 9:46 am to TIEF
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I'm just passing on what I was told.
And I'm just tell you the truth. There's a reason you can buy rentals cheaper than privately owned vehicle.
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People do not realize many cars at carmax and big dealer lots were rental cars.
That's not true.
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Yes the do perform maintenance, they're not doing major jobs but they're changing oil, brake pads etc. According to the manufacturer.unlike most private car owners.
Unsubstantiated fodder.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:09 am to TIEF
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People do not realize many cars at carmax and big dealer lots were rental cars.
Of course they are. A few rental companies may still do direct to public, but most don't.
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Yes the do perform maintenance, they're not doing major jobs but they're changing oil, brake pads etc. According to the manufacturer.unlike most private car owners.
No, they are doing very little. No pads, add some oil once in awhile.
Private owners, on average, take far better care of their vehicles.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:13 am to LNCHBOX
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That's not true.
It could be. We used to see a lot of rental fleet stuff at the auctions. The sellers would usually be the leasing company the rental car company used.
You generally never bought stuff directly from Hertz or Avis or whatever, but usually from a leasing company.
This has been awhile back, IDK if it's changed.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:17 am to N2cars
I mean some of them are likely rentals, but not the majority as this guy was implying IMO.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:21 am to LNCHBOX
I didn't imply that. Go back and read that I typed "many" not "most."
We disagree, I've been told, experienced and read what I have and obviously you have heard, experienced and read something different.
We disagree, I've been told, experienced and read what I have and obviously you have heard, experienced and read something different.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:24 am to Croacka
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Higher the average speed = fewer hours on the engine
This. Hwy miles vs city miles is about the total amount of hours on all vehicle systems
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:25 am to N2cars
There is no button on Kelley blue book or NADAguides for Hwy or City miles. The guy that uses his car for deliveries in the city all day is going to say it was all hwy miles when he sells it.
I bought a used car on Saturday. I paid the $45 for a month subscription to Car Check. You can run the car history with the VIN. Almost every car I looked at had been wrecked. I looked at about 100 online and probably around 85-90 had a wreck in it's history.
I bought a used car on Saturday. I paid the $45 for a month subscription to Car Check. You can run the car history with the VIN. Almost every car I looked at had been wrecked. I looked at about 100 online and probably around 85-90 had a wreck in it's history.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:36 am to LNCHBOX
Agreed.
I would say, maybe 10% or so.
It may vary depending on market.
Generally, the leased stuff (rental) went to the smaller stores.
I would say, maybe 10% or so.
It may vary depending on market.
Generally, the leased stuff (rental) went to the smaller stores.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:47 am to N2cars
quote:What about the liability angle for rental companies? Must maintain vehicle precisely with oil, brakes, etc. if not they'd be wide open for lawsuits
No, they are doing very little. No pads, add some oil once in awhile.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:49 am to The Mick
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Must maintain vehicle precisely with oil, brakes, etc. if not they'd be wide open for lawsuits
What exactly would one sue for over a late oil change? And how could they possibly prove it?
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:50 am to The Mick
Mick, they usually don't keep them long enough for any of that to matter.
Obviously, if it's a safety issue, they'll correct it.
Obviously, if it's a safety issue, they'll correct it.
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:51 am to N2cars
Gotcha 
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:53 am to LNCHBOX
Maybe oil is irrelevant but brakes etc could become an issue
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