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re: U.S. internet speeds rose nearly 40 percent this year
Posted on 12/15/18 at 10:24 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 12/15/18 at 10:24 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Enjoying my 1GB speed (actual) 980 Mbps 3' away from modem on wifi) with XFinity in NW Houston
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Posted on 12/15/18 at 10:27 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I don't believe you.
Posted on 12/15/18 at 10:55 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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My quick hypothesis is that the millions dead from tax cuts and NN repeal led to less strain on the system?
Riiiiiiiiiiight.
It’s not things that were already moving in place, such as the adoption and maturation of DOCSIS 3.1 and prep for 5G
It’s not a continuation of the hyperbolic trend already in place that really didn’t slow down due to FCC placing carriers under Title 2, in spite of that being the main talking point.
Obviously what happened is that the industry collectively poured trillions of dollars to design plans for infrastructure upgrades, get the resquite paperwork and permitting, and executed it all within a few months so that it would start showing up in real world data before June.
BTW, this year it was 35% and change increase.
Last year it was a 31% change increase.
Literally the only people who think this is news (especially in relation to NN) are the people trying to generate fake news in support of their viewpoint.
This post was edited on 12/15/18 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 12/15/18 at 11:06 pm to Volvagia
My company has raised most of the speeds in our area to 200down/20 up with gig available in a few larger markets. The gig is rolling out to everyone soon however, with in the next 2 years or so.
Posted on 12/15/18 at 11:12 pm to jg8623
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To stream? No it’s not
Yeah, it is if it's true 4k HDR quality. Netflix and Hulu are nowhere near a remux's quality. And that doesnt even consider that some files use north of 100mbs to even stream.
This post was edited on 12/15/18 at 11:13 pm
Posted on 12/15/18 at 11:13 pm to VABuckeye
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All of that doesn’t matter if the source doesn’t have the bandwidth for the traffic and limits the output speeds to handle the traffic. That is how it works.
Ding ding.
This only shows physical capability of hardware now. And you KNOW ISPs would prefer to place major big name speed test services in the “fast lane.”
Knowing you can hit 100 mpbs in real world scenarios won’t make you feel better if you have Comcast and Netflix gets de facto blocked again (throttling consumer traffic to Netflix to ~2.5 mpbs regardless of service level is what started this mess on the large scale. And be aware it wasn’t that Netflix needed to up their service: Comcast stifled the traffic when it entered their network so it didn’t matter what bandwidth came out of their servers).
This post was edited on 12/15/18 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 12/15/18 at 11:16 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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My guess is you have zero insight into this outside of some biased article you read online. I have a greater insight into what these so called one provider areas are actually experiencing than you do. I can assure you of that. You don’t know what you’re talking about and instead use an obscure, outlier example to fit your narrative.
Posted on 12/15/18 at 11:17 pm to Volvagia
And that's what they're really after. It may not be tomorrow, but at some point you're going to be paying more for less, like always, with the cable companies. Restrictive regulations they say when really they mean it restricts them on how much they can gouge the consumer.
Posted on 12/15/18 at 11:25 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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Yeah, it is if it's true 4k HDR quality. Netflix and Hulu are nowhere near a remux's quality. And that doesnt even consider that some files use north of 100mbs to even stream.
Sure, but most people are just using Netflix or amazon etc. and have no clue what remux even is. I thought you were just talking about basic 4K streaming
Posted on 12/15/18 at 11:26 pm to EarlyCuyler3
I’d be all for free market set up if they were.
They scream that they are a utility when they demand public funds, when they need right of ways, and when they need legally enforced subscriber exclusivity.
But when it comes to getting even some of the controls that comes along with those benefits....which is required because of how badly those elements damage a free market system...oh well nnnnnnnow it’s too restrictive.
Part that pissed me off the most about the crying: they asked to be formally classified as a utility.
It was the cornerstone of the defense in the trial with the FTC regarding some of their practices: we are above their jurisdiction.
“NN” become codified when the FCC said in response “Oh, well if you aren’t in theirs then you are in mine.”
But big telecoms want to cherrypick what they want in each world.
They scream that they are a utility when they demand public funds, when they need right of ways, and when they need legally enforced subscriber exclusivity.
But when it comes to getting even some of the controls that comes along with those benefits....which is required because of how badly those elements damage a free market system...oh well nnnnnnnow it’s too restrictive.
Part that pissed me off the most about the crying: they asked to be formally classified as a utility.
It was the cornerstone of the defense in the trial with the FTC regarding some of their practices: we are above their jurisdiction.
“NN” become codified when the FCC said in response “Oh, well if you aren’t in theirs then you are in mine.”
But big telecoms want to cherrypick what they want in each world.
This post was edited on 12/15/18 at 11:27 pm
Posted on 12/15/18 at 11:27 pm to jg8623
I dont want my use arbitrarily limited because comcast feels that's how much I need each month. That's crap.
Posted on 12/15/18 at 11:27 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
We got Cspire fiber installed in my neighborhood last summer. AT&T is installing fiber there as we speak, too. Xfinity's a-hole has puckered up a bit recently!
Posted on 12/15/18 at 11:41 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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I dont want my use arbitrarily limited because comcast feels that's how much I need each month. That's crap.
Then be prepared to pay more? You want internet governed like a utility (title II) but do not want to billed like it. You are using exponentially more than the grandma who just wants to read books on their kindle. I don’t know anyone in a one bedroom apartment who thinks they should pay the same water bill as the house with the hot tub swimming pool and sprinkler system. Nor should they.
This post was edited on 12/15/18 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 12/15/18 at 11:53 pm to Adam Banks
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Then be prepared to pay more? You want internet governed like a utility (title II) but do not want to billed like it. You are using exponentially more than the grandma who just wants to read books on their kindle. I don’t know anyone in a one bedroom apartment who thinks they should pay the same water bill as the house with the hot tub swimmi
Umm, that's already how it works in the US for ISPs. Everyone has a tiered system.
Data caps are the most asinine part of the system. You're confusing caps with speeds.
When it comes to internet, the instantaneous speed you use is the expense, not the volume you use over a month. That's completely different than gas/electricity/water.
This post was edited on 12/15/18 at 11:58 pm
Posted on 12/16/18 at 12:36 am to FCP
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My company (AT&T) is in the process of pulling fiber optic lines into every back alley, side street, and trailer ghetto in South Louisiana. We’re hooking up 1000x1000 hsia with no data caps for around $70/month.
Yet they didn't pull it into my brand new fricking neighborhood in St George.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 1:16 am to slackster
This. They're trying to protect their dying cable system. They want to make it cost prohibitive to stream TV. Unless it's their service.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 9:01 am to RogerTheShrubber
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5G will change everything anyway.
How so?
Posted on 12/16/18 at 9:30 am to TOSOV
It is a standard that would allow near landline levels of performance from a cell tower, allowing for a theoretical alternative if you think your cable provider is doing you dirty/reintroducing free market forces into the game.
Personally I’m not as optimistic as Roger on the game changing element. The data caps (which do make more sense on mobile grids) are likely to be cost prohibitive for mainstream users.
Sure, the option is there....it’s just absurdly expensive.
But what’s the difference between that and land line?
IMO the only place where it might be a game changer is rural environs, where land line isn’t an option in the first place and will realistically never be an option with the federal government backing satellite and mobile options as alternatives.
Personally I’m not as optimistic as Roger on the game changing element. The data caps (which do make more sense on mobile grids) are likely to be cost prohibitive for mainstream users.
Sure, the option is there....it’s just absurdly expensive.
But what’s the difference between that and land line?
IMO the only place where it might be a game changer is rural environs, where land line isn’t an option in the first place and will realistically never be an option with the federal government backing satellite and mobile options as alternatives.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 9:35 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Wow you can’t help yourself. You have to bleeds your crap over from the poli board
Posted on 12/16/18 at 9:49 am to Torrence Hatch
I see a correlation between population density and internet speed
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