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re: Upper-class parents are raising their children better than lower/middle-class
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:42 am to RealityTiger
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:42 am to RealityTiger
He's not wrong though. He is pointing out that a lot of lazy parents use iPads and the like to substitute parenting their children.
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:42 am to Pecker
Obviously playing video games 8 hours a day is bad. Is anyone arguing otherwise ITT?
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:43 am to Antonio Moss
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It sounds like you get a lot of information from made-for-TV movies.
Idk, I went to a private school, and more than a handful of my peers had money/activities substituted for actual involvement in their lives.
It's anecdotal though, so who knows?
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:44 am to slackster
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What does that data say?
Higher screen times result in some positives (quicker deciphering skills) but a lot of negatives (sub-adequate attention spans, problems with focus, memory, and recollection.)
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However, they can't say anything about the content of the screen time nor can they establish any causation.
Obviously this is huge variable but I doubt many parents have their kids reading kindles instead of playing games on iPads.
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It's no different than saying letting your kid watch an hour or two of TV per day is a horrible parenting decision. I highly doubt you truly believe that.
I think letting a kid (especially under 13) watch 1-2 hours of TV a day is a really bad deal.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 11:46 am
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:45 am to Pecker
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Are we about to pretend that the vast majority of children who are glued to iPads all day are using Rosetta Stone?
I doubt it. Mine were more into geography and creating projects to take to school for extra credit.
Smart kids will avoid mind numbing shite and find something stimulating. There's nothing wrong with a kid using an iPad or playing video games a couple hours a day.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:45 am to Pecker
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Are we about to pretend that the vast majority of children who are glued to iPads all day are using Rosetta Stone? And what about the kids playing fortnite for hours a day? Is this were we discuss the outliers and ignore the bulk of users and their activities on these devices?
It might be worth talking about this in a more specific sense then, because your OP has parents who don't have a TV in their house whatsoever. You're the one who introduced these extremes.
If your point is that a kid playing Angry Birds for 5 hours a day is unhealthy, I don't think you'll find many who disagree.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:47 am to Pecker
quote:Yet here you are, a 40 year old virgin who gets his rocks off being a troll on a message forum.
Let me suggest that I have a good understanding of both of my parents' opinions on this matter considering they raised me at a time when cell phones, TVs and video games were ubiquitous.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:48 am to RealityTiger
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Yet here you are, a 40 year old virgin
You've got me figured out for sure.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:48 am to slackster
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It might be worth talking about this in a more specific sense then, because your OP has parents who don't have a TV in their house whatsoever. You're the one who introduced these extremes.
If your point is that a kid playing Angry Birds for 5 hours a day is unhealthy, I don't think you'll find many who disagree
Right.
Monitoring activity and regulating activity is important here. There's more misinformation that factual info on the web. It all comes down to parental guidance.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 11:50 am
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:49 am to slackster
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If your point is that a kid playing Angry Birds for 5 hours a day is unhealthy, I don't think you'll find many who disagree.
Yeah. Honestly, I think we’re all on pretty much the same page.
But that fact is hidden by a cloud of anecdotes, personal experience, and broad generalizations.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 11:50 am
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:50 am to slackster
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If your point is that a kid playing Angry Birds for 5 hours a day is unhealthy, I don't think you'll find many who disagree.
Clearly.
But I think it goes deeper than that. The ability to rapidly change from app to app/game to game/article to article is what seems to be the most negative effect.
Roger was talking about reading magazines as a kid. Back then, you could not instantly switch from National Geographic to SI, etc. Nor could you, with a snap of finger, close a magazine and start playing a video game on SNES.
One of the things I see everyday that concerns me about this tech generation is the lack of patience and willingness to work through problems. Many simply shut down if the answer to a problem is not immediately available.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 11:52 am
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:51 am to slackster
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It might be worth talking about this in a more specific sense then, because your OP has parents who don't have a TV in their house whatsoever. You're the one who introduced these extremes.
My OP also had this which is conveniently being ignored:
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Jobs, the CEO of Apple until his death in 2012, revealed in a 2011 New York Times interview that he prohibited his kids from using the newly-released iPad. "We limit how much technology our kids use at home,"
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:51 am to Displaced
You're really not getting the point, and others have and are tired of reading this going back and forth about it.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:52 am to Antonio Moss
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One of the things I see everyday that concerns me about this tech generation is the lack of patience and willingness to work through problems.
I agree, in fact critical thinking is on the decline. Still, proper regulation of technology by a parent is the key imo.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:52 am to Antonio Moss
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One of the things I see everyday that concerns me about this tech generation is the lack of patience and willingness to work through problems. Many simple shut down if the answer to a problem is not immediately available.
I absolutely agree with this. And I think that’s one of the reasons that parental involvement is important no matter the activity.
If a kid can’t figure out an answer on his math app, the parent needs to be there encouraging them to press on.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:54 am to UGATiger26
Beating ultra tough NES games helped give me the resilience needed to excel in the adult world tbh
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:54 am to Pecker
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We limit how much technology our kids use at home,"
I think everyone here would agree with this, Pecker.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:55 am to RealityTiger
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You're really not getting the point,
Oh, so I'm wrong because I don't share your view, gotcha.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:56 am to UGATiger26
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I absolutely agree with this. And I think that’s one of the reasons that parental involvement is important no matter the activity.
But therein lies my point. The device requires strict parental involvement to be effective which 1) is not realistic and 2) works against forming independence.
If my kid goes outside and plays with his buddies, there are going be problems (building forts, making rules for games, etc.) that they are going to have to figure out and I'm not going to be standing over them playing referee. In fact, that's probably the worst thing I could do in that situation.
But with these handheld devices, in order to be effective, I have to stand over him and say "no, don't go to another app; no, don't flip to a different game."
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 11:59 am
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:58 am to Sun God
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Beating ultra tough NES games helped give me the resilience needed to excel in the adult world tbh
Sure. I played video games as a kid too. But I also didn't have the ability to switch back-and-forth between games at a blazing pace.
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