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re: Update on my stomach issues-Gallbladder
Posted on 10/30/15 at 5:47 pm to SaltyMcKracker
Posted on 10/30/15 at 5:47 pm to SaltyMcKracker
hey guys quick update
i did a blood test and should know results soon. the dr ordered a HICA test for next week to check the gallbladder further
well the hospital called today and gave me an estimate for the test. the test itself is 3,500 and i owe 20% so i will have to pay $700 on tuesday just to have this damn test
i guess my question is, is it THAT necessary to have this done or will the blood test, colonoscopy and scope be able to tell if its messed up?
sorry, just dont have thousands to go around spending right now on tests just for them to tell me i have a nervous stomach.
thoughts?
i did a blood test and should know results soon. the dr ordered a HICA test for next week to check the gallbladder further
well the hospital called today and gave me an estimate for the test. the test itself is 3,500 and i owe 20% so i will have to pay $700 on tuesday just to have this damn test
i guess my question is, is it THAT necessary to have this done or will the blood test, colonoscopy and scope be able to tell if its messed up?
sorry, just dont have thousands to go around spending right now on tests just for them to tell me i have a nervous stomach.
thoughts?
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 6:28 pm to dallastiger55
Wonder if they can check for parasites:whatever the other poster had that was treated with antibiotics.
Also running 40 miles a week IS overboard. 20-25 not so much.
Hope you feel better soon!
Also running 40 miles a week IS overboard. 20-25 not so much.
Hope you feel better soon!
This post was edited on 10/30/15 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 10/30/15 at 8:32 pm to tiger91
Thanks.
I hope so. I just know some doctors are all about collecting that $$& by running a thousand tests.
I hope so. I just know some doctors are all about collecting that $$& by running a thousand tests.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 8:46 pm to Chalmette_Shoes
quote:
easiest procedure you will ever have.
I wish mine would have gone that smoothly.
When I went into the hospital, the first day they did an endoscopy to remove the gallstones from my gallbladder. The second day they did the surgery laparoscopically and I was supposed to go home the next day.
I have the surgery, and when I'm recovering it feels like my stomach is full of air, that's pretty common and was told by the nurse to "walk it off." The next day I'm still in pain and they keep me; this happens the following day, and the day after that. At this point, the nurse accuses me of being a drug seeker, and I went off on this bitch and told her I wanted to see my doctor NOW! My doctor comes in, takes one look at me, and immediately rushes me into the OR to do an endoscopy; apparently the nurse didn't notice the fact that I was literally yellow, full blown jaundiced.
Apparently when they removed the gallbladder, some remaining stones had fallen into my duodenum and were completely blocking my digestive system. On top of that, during the endoscopy to remove them, I woke up on the table with the tube down my throat and in my intestine. They couldn't give me any more pain meds so I had to lie there and literally beg for help for what seemed like 30 minutes. After that, I felt like a million bucks and went home the next day.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 8:50 pm to Corkfather
Thanks dude, I feel much better now
Lol
Lol
Posted on 10/30/15 at 8:52 pm to dallastiger55
Lol, you'll be fine. Just don't go to North Oaks in Hammond 
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. This post was edited on 10/30/15 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:26 pm to dallastiger55
Had gallstones right after my 1st daughter was born. I was 33 and had always been thin. I waited almost a year for them to start doing laparoscopic surgery in BR (1990). I had terrible attacks during that time. Surgery went very easy. I had some difficulties at first with fried foods but adjusted my diet and everything was fine.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:09 pm to dallastiger55
Just have the gallbladder removed. If you have all that inflammation and sludge why do the Hida scan? All that does is give you a percentage of how well or not well your gallbladder is functioning. I had mine out in February after having only 1 single attack. Thought I was gonna die! It was terrible. Wasn't gonna go through that again.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:23 pm to dallastiger55
if you don't have the cash, explain that to the hospital and ask them if they can reduce the cost of the test...there are often drastically different costs depending on what your insurance will cover. Often, the testing facilities are owned by doctors, so don't hesitate to ask him as well...
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:48 pm to dallastiger55
I had my gallbladder removed a year and a half ago. Mine was very unusual. I had the typical attacks under the right rib cage. However, the first HIDA scan failed to even visualize the gallbladder at all. A second HIDA scan was ordered and I nearly passed out from the pain during the test.
The atypical part is that my gallbladder function came back above 90%. Usually removal of the gallbladder is indicated due to a low functioning gallbladder. The surgeon left it up to me as there was no real guidance to deal with a hyperactive gallbladder.
Since removal, the attacks have mostly stopped. I do not have the toilet problems above and beyond what I had dealt with prior to surgery. I don't think my gallbladder ever really worked properly so my IBS-D was the same before and after removal.
A couple of things to note. Even with gallbladder removal you can still have other tricky problems that can cause pain. Biliary Dyskinesia and Sphincter of Oddi Dysfunction can both mimic a bad gallbladder or gallstone attacks. I feel I may have a mild case of one of these as I very rarely still have these sensations but not nearly at the rate as before my gallbladder removal.
The atypical part is that my gallbladder function came back above 90%. Usually removal of the gallbladder is indicated due to a low functioning gallbladder. The surgeon left it up to me as there was no real guidance to deal with a hyperactive gallbladder.
Since removal, the attacks have mostly stopped. I do not have the toilet problems above and beyond what I had dealt with prior to surgery. I don't think my gallbladder ever really worked properly so my IBS-D was the same before and after removal.
A couple of things to note. Even with gallbladder removal you can still have other tricky problems that can cause pain. Biliary Dyskinesia and Sphincter of Oddi Dysfunction can both mimic a bad gallbladder or gallstone attacks. I feel I may have a mild case of one of these as I very rarely still have these sensations but not nearly at the rate as before my gallbladder removal.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:04 pm to dallastiger55
run, don't walk away from the quacks...
too bad you haven't read up on health. back in 2000 I too didn't know much...couldn't help dad...he was a certified train wreck;
marfans syndrome
scoliosis
and the kicker
lou gherigs
the quacks couldn't help....even after running all kinds of tests [ milking the cow is all they were doing ]
there are alternative treatments for gallbladder
a friend actually did a gall bladder cleanse and it worked...but you have to properly prepare...and you are likely not even gonna go there, you're scared shitless...
been there done that
likey lots easier than a cleanse, is drinking pure leaf concentrated aloe vera juice...8oz 2-3 times a day...of course you'd already have to know and be confident...not running scared asking a quack for advice
hope the quacks can help...I can't stand them...
too bad you haven't read up on health. back in 2000 I too didn't know much...couldn't help dad...he was a certified train wreck;
marfans syndrome
scoliosis
and the kicker
lou gherigs
the quacks couldn't help....even after running all kinds of tests [ milking the cow is all they were doing ]
there are alternative treatments for gallbladder
a friend actually did a gall bladder cleanse and it worked...but you have to properly prepare...and you are likely not even gonna go there, you're scared shitless...
been there done that
likey lots easier than a cleanse, is drinking pure leaf concentrated aloe vera juice...8oz 2-3 times a day...of course you'd already have to know and be confident...not running scared asking a quack for advice
hope the quacks can help...I can't stand them...
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:06 pm to LSU Wayne
quote:
Sphincter of Oddi
I giggled like a first grader when I read this...
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:07 pm to retired trucker
Yeah, he should trust some obviously uneducated dude on the Internet touting alternative medicine over DOCTORS
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:11 pm to Spankum
Of course I will give you that. It should be anyone's first impression. However if it is indeed disfunctional, well it is time to get that fixed. And the likelihood is you recently had a good gallbladder removed just to discover the problem was something else. Ugh.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:29 pm to dallastiger55
I detest this assertion
Unless the testing is done in the Dr's. office (or he owns part of the place doing it), he gets nothing out of it. Other than saving his reputation by not doing unnecessary surgeries
Don't you want to be thorough when it comes to being cut open? But I would wait for the results of the other testing first
Unless the testing is done in the Dr's. office (or he owns part of the place doing it), he gets nothing out of it. Other than saving his reputation by not doing unnecessary surgeries
Don't you want to be thorough when it comes to being cut open? But I would wait for the results of the other testing first
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:37 pm to Paige
He said he lost lots of weight. It's common for sludge and stones to form after weight loss. I wouldn't waste another 700 on a confirmation of a dysfunctional gallbladder. But then again my attacks were so sudden and so severe I thought I was having a heart attack. 10/10 on the pain scale, worst pain I have ever felt. I didn't even have to tell the ER how much it hurt. After they did a quick ekg they were very generous with the dilaudid.
Posted on 10/31/15 at 1:17 am to SaltyMcKracker
Has anyone with diarrhea issues tried taking colestipol or cholestyramine? That and 1/2 an Immodium tablet in the morning has me basically back to normal. Thought I may mention it for anyone trying to deal with it, I know how inconvenient/embarrassing it can be.
Posted on 10/31/15 at 4:25 am to dallastiger55
quote:
i did a blood test and should know results soon. the dr ordered a HICA test for next week to check the gallbladder further
As far as the HIDA scan goes, I don't think it will affect your management very much in this case. Based on your ultrasound results showing biliary sludge/distention/pericystic fluid, I think it's likely that they will recommend removal of your gallbladder regardless of what the HIDA shows. The blood tests may provide a little more information, but are also unlikely to change your management.
The procedure to remove the gallbladder itself is super commonly performed, and while complications can occur, they are fairly uncommon. One poster mentioned he had a retained bile duct stone; this happening is less likely in your case since it sounds like your ultrasound did not reveal any stones.
As far as diet changes goes, others are correct in pointing out that the gallbladder is involved in digesting dietary fat. Just to clarify, all the gallbladder does is -store- bile (which is the stuff that helps break down fat); the liver makes bile, so you can still eat fat, but in reduced amounts. Undigested fat is what causes diarrhea.
At this point, I'd probably defer the HIDA and go forward with taking the gallbladder out, but I would directly ask your doc if the HIDA would change his/her management given your ultrasound results.
Hope this helps, and good luck!
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