re: Idaho Murders Thread (Links inside)

Read a story today from anonymous sources saying an ID from victim or victims found in Kohberger’s car, but it seemed pretty loose with the proof.

Trying to see if anything better reported I saw the below on Newsweek about sheath being sent to a lab in Texas specializing in kinship DNA.

First statement makes it seem like Idaho could not find or test it properly for a DNA profile & just sent to specialized lab, but some additional comments state “first lab did not match the DNA to Kohberger” which seems to be more of a problem.

It doesn’t go into dates on when tests performed, but hopefully what was stated on arrest warrant in regards to getting info on car from WSU police in late November, seeing older ticket with phone number on police video, getting warrants for phone data, and so on to then end getting father’s dna from trash is accurate.

If they only focused on him after Texas test by a lab focused on kinship DNA with Idaho test actually different from Texas results, and then they just started to fill in the blanks with car and phone records for arrest warrant I guess some evidence found in immediate searches could be challenged (maybe ones in PA including car).

I think car lead with changes to license plates from WSU police would have put him on their radar anyway. The affidavit for arrest and original searches mentioned how dna taken from trash if judge wanted to consider separate from rest of evidence, but it didn’t say anything about issues getting dna from sheath or different results first lab.

They also have possible issue with one cop - “who worked on the Kohberger case has been the subject of a "confidential internal affairs investigation."…”.

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the knife sheath was sent out of Idaho to be tested by a startup in Texas.

"They sent it first to the lab in Idaho, and the lab in Idaho couldn't find anything. So they thought this might be a dead end," Blum said on The Megyn Kelly Show earlier in March.

In an appearance on NewsNation on Wednesday, Blum said investigators sent the knife sheath to Texas because they wanted to make an arrest.

The lab in Texas "specialized in proprietary devices that made what is called kinship DNA," Blum said. "You could figure out a relative of the DNA that you already had, and this lab was set up to investigate unsolved murders."

The lab had only been used for cold cases prior to Moscow police sending it the knife sheath.

"It's a problem for the prosecution if the reports are accurate and the first lab did not match the DNA to Kohberger," Neama Rahmani, an attorney and former federal prosecutor, told Newsweek.

"Even though familial DNA matches are new, the state is going to have to explain why the first lab drew a different conclusion."

Rahmani added: "It's uncommon for such a bloody crime scene to have only a single source of DNA connected to a defendant. The defense will argue that it was transferred or planted. There may also be a lot of other peoples' DNA at the scene because it was a 'party house.' The defense will argue that law enforcement didn't rule them out as suspects."

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https://www.newsweek.com/bryan-kohberger-defense-boost-over-knife-sheath-dna-attorney-1791378

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A lab not finding DNA evidence isn’t the same thing as them saying DNA doesn’t match the suspect.

Specialized labs are used all the time in cold cases when local labs don’t have the tools or expertise to perform latest DNA testing techniques.

It’s never been an issue for prosecution that these labs were used.

Newsweek know all of that. This article is click bait.

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Specialized labs are not an issue, and with fathers and killer’s DNA tested later if Texas lab story true that lab was correct.

I just reread that part of the the affidavit, and it states, “The Idaho State Lab later located a single source of male DNA (Suspect Profile) left on the button snap of the knife sheath.”

If Idaho found dna originally it might mean Idaho could not match DNA to any kind of genealogy database which is where Texas lab specializing in this came in which can be easily explained.

There were always reports and rumors of matching against a genealogy website, but the affidavit was straight forward following various other types of evidence like info from WSU on car and registration changes, car found in videos, phone number from prior issue, and then getting phone data which led to fbi getting dna from trash to match against sheath. Just don’t know Idaho or PA requirements for search warrants when it comes to genealogy DNA matching first and then working backwards while not mentioning that in affidavit for search warrants (PA mainly and if that was order of events).

All BK needs is finding no DNA type evidence in his car nor in his apartment to possibly get a "reasonable doubt" acquittal.
A witness that was asleep that testifies that she didn't hear anything is of no value.

Apparently, Kohberger was indicted by a 'secret' grand jury overnight. The hearing that was scheduled for June has been cancelled.

https://twitter.com/TVAshleigh/status/1658718631662960640

https://twitter.com/BrianEntin/status/1658857847264890884

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Brian Entin
@BrianEntin
A grand jury has indicted Bryan Kohberger. What that means is the grand jury reviewed evidence/testimony and found enough evidence to indict. That doesn’t mean they found him guilty. It means there won’t be a preliminary hearing and the charges move forward.

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Also, by Kohberger waiving his right to a speedy trial, the prelim hearing was not scheduled until June.

That gave the state enough time to do all their evidence gathering, reporting, discovery, etc. and once they had enough evidence, there was no reason to wait for the hearing. They could proceed immediately to the grand jury.

Can someone elaborate on why it was handled this way?

Grand jury gives DA lots of cover

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Can someone elaborate on why it was handled this way?

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Grand jury indictments are better. The preliminary hearing he could attack evidence as to why he is even there. Of course whether or not something happened to convene the panel or not, I don't know. Could've been planning on it all along.

Arraignment is scheduled for Monday 5/22 along with some motion hearings.

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Did he get arraigned today?

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Yeah, looks like he said he understood the charges and that anything he said could be used against him...then...didn't enter a plea.

So, the judge entered not guilty on his behalf.

Trial date for early October. State has 60 days to decide whether they want the death penalty.