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re: Update: 22 new charges for Endymion drunk driver
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:38 pm to Titus Pullo
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:38 pm to Titus Pullo
quote:
Haven't read the article yet, but apparently he was related to someone in a Lamborghini.
Endymion crash victims include brother, friends of woman killed in Lamborghini crash
Looks like you didn't read your post either
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Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
yup.
this is one of those things where I think beatings from your parents and loved ones can positively shape your future behavior
this is one of those things where I think beatings from your parents and loved ones can positively shape your future behavior
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:42 pm to jsk020
quote:the law treats them as the same thing too.
sure most people here have at one time driven at .08 but not at .232, since most of us have friends that would stop us
a 20 year old a day before his 21st birthday blowing a .04 is the same thing as you or I getting stopped and blowing a .232
how does that make fricking sense?
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:42 pm to NIH
Since I got Uber a couple of years ago, I have only driven even buzzed once. So yes, it most definitely cut down on drinking and driving more than the government ever could
This kid will probably plead out and get 7 years
This kid will probably plead out and get 7 years
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:44 pm to jsk020
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most of us have friends
You have more faith in people here than I do.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:45 pm to DelU249
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the law treats them as the same thing too.
a 20 year old a day before his 21st birthday blowing a .04 is the same thing as you or I getting stopped and blowing a .232 how does that make fricking sense
The law might technically but judges don't.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:45 pm to DelU249
quote:I understand your point but unfortunately the b'day party story is almost common and not too out of the ordinary for New Orleans unfortunately. You can hear similar shite almost daily on the news.
duh, I remember that 5 year old girl killed at her own birthday party because some dudes sprayed the place trying to hit one guy. how much outrage did you have then, huh? how concerned were you? how many threads were started on this board?
A dude plowing a pickup truck into a parade crowd... not quite as common.
*not to dismiss your point - I get it.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:46 pm to Tiger Prawn
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He doesn't deserve to be executed, but he also doesn't deserve to walk out of jail as a free man ever again either.
Not much of a difference in my opinion. If you are never getting out of prison, what's the point?
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:48 pm to DelU249
It's been awhile since I saw the law, but I believe they have different punishments for different levels (cannot speak for the under 21 thing, bc I did not see that one).
You get 1 punishment if you are over .08 and under .15
More sever over .15, but under a .20.
Anything over that .20 level is treated similar to a multiple offender.
You get 1 punishment if you are over .08 and under .15
More sever over .15, but under a .20.
Anything over that .20 level is treated similar to a multiple offender.
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:48 pm to tigerinthebueche
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As for "over prosecuting", maybe if we'd quit giving first offenders pretrial deals and all the bullshite "programs" we offer to these criminals and make the punishment absolute and severe, we wouldn't have so many cases to over prosecute.
i'm glad rates are at an all time low. Now imagine if we doubled the effort. Maybe the rates could be even lower.
Christ on a cracker, Joe Arpaio is that you?
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:49 pm to lsupride87
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The crime here is driving drunk.
This guy did more than drive drunk. I'll have to assume I'm not understanding your post correctly, because you can't possibly be saying all he did was drive drunk.
ETA: I do agree with y'all though that executing this guy would be comically overkill.
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:51 pm to Weekend Warrior79
what if this was the first time he ever drank? lol..
What if he was straight edge, didn't cuss and was even saving himself for marriage and never got any pussy?
Man..that would suck.
What if he was straight edge, didn't cuss and was even saving himself for marriage and never got any pussy?
Man..that would suck.
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:51 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Driving drunk is the crime that led to him running into people.
because you can't possibly be saying all he did was drive drunk.
People are letting their emotions say he should be executed or spend life in prison.
My point is, if the same kid, just as drunk, happened to smoke a lightpole that night, does he still deserve execution? He made the same mistake to get in the car shitfaced, but happened to hit a lightpole which did not allow him to run over people.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:54 pm to lsupride87
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My point is, if the same kid, just as drunk, happened to smoke a lightpole that night, does he still deserve execution? He made the same mistake to get in the car shitfaced, but happened to hit a lightpole which did not allow him to run over people.
That's really not a fair comparison to make. What/who he ran into changes the severity of his crimes. Sucks for him, but he but himself in that situation.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:54 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Get completely shitfaced drunk at .232 and wrap your car around a lightpole:
Do you deserve life or the death penalty?
Depends how many people I put in the hospital
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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you're phrasing this as if we could ever create a perfect system. that's impossible
I realize that Slow, but how many repeat offenders are out there? Good lord, you can't read about (most) a DWI without finding out the driver had a previous arrest in another parish that wasn't prosecuted or has had multiple DWI arrests. I think its ludicrous to say we over prosecute when rates are falling. I'd say the plan is working as it should.
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they've destroyed some civil rights on this conquest and also expanded the definition of "DWI" to behaviors that aren't very dangerous
I find this disturbing as well and am not in favor of it. that said, the Rizzuto kid didn't have his rights violated. I'd suggest he well violated the rights of the 30+ people he plowed over.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:58 pm to The Mick
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unfortunately the b'day party story is almost common and not too out of the ordinary for New Orleans unfortunately
quote:
A dude plowing a pickup truck into a parade crowd... not quite as common.
nothing usual about it
your city sucks and this is why...none of you give a shite and if your claim is that you're desensitized, that should only speak to how dire the situation is...but mitch goes on tv and spins thugs who are bad shots to increased training treating bullet wounds
that's the day I made plans to leave new Orleans. I couldn't believe it, no one gave a shite.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 2:03 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:And I find that such an illogical thought process.
That's really not a fair comparison to make. What/who he ran into changes the severity of his crimes. Sucks for him, but he but himself in that situation.
I put a gun to someones head and pull the trigger, I personally believe that person deserves the death penalty. Just because the bullet misses the brain, and the person survives, does not change the crime and intent in my eyes.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 2:06 pm to lsupride87
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And I find that such an illogical thought process.
I can't decide if you're trolling or not. Just so I have you straight, you think it would be more logical that he receive the same punishment whether he hit a light pole or the 30+ people he hit. Do I have that right?
quote:
I put a gun to someones head and pull the trigger, I personally believe that person deserves the death penalty. Just because the bullet misses the brain, and the person survives, does not change the crime and intent in my eyes.
Oh, you're serious. That comparison is not very applicable to this one. We're going to not agree it looks like, so I'll just stop trying now
Posted on 3/1/17 at 2:08 pm to Deactived
quote:I know, but the law is essentially left to their personal discretion. that creates the problem of inequitable treatment, though I do like that judges (unlike pieces of paper) can appreciate nuance.
but judges don't.
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