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re: Univ of Georgia Instructor: "White People May Have to Die"
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:16 am to crap4brain
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:16 am to crap4brain
I support the assassination of all people regardless of color or creed.
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:32 am to upgrayedd
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Its protected by the first amendment
No, as a matter of fact, it isn’t.
Perhaps if you viewed his words in a bubble, not considering current cutltural and political climate. But that would be disingenuous.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:36 am to crap4brain
Seems like it would be a scheduling conflict with all the black people they're busy killing
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:37 am to S1C EM
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No, as a matter of fact, it isn’t.
Perhaps if you viewed his words in a bubble, not considering current cutltural and political climate. But that would be disingenuous.
As a matter of fact, it is. He's not making specific threats to a specific person. You can say "we need to kill cops" and you're protected. But if you point to a specific cop and say "we need to kill that cop", then you're gonna be in trouble
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 8:38 am
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:37 am to crap4brain
Translation: we're currently trying to decide what will cost us more: the reduced donations or the discrimination lawsuit from firing this guy.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:42 am to crap4brain
Sounds like a new Purge movie.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:49 am to upgrayedd
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He's not making specific threats to a specific person.
Specificity has nothing to do with it. If you start yelling “we need to kill these cops,” you best pray no one acts. If they do, you’re fricked. The only ground you have in this case is that nothing happened. You can’t guarantee that will be the case every time he makes such a statement, particularly as the audience changes.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:00 am to upgrayedd
Not protected by free speech:
•Obscenity
•Fighting words
•Defamation (including libel and slander)
•Child pornography
•Perjury
•Blackmail
•Incitement to imminent lawless action
•True threats
•Solicitations to commit crimes
Criminal solicitation law: LINK
True Threat Law: “True threats of violence” that are directed at a person or group of persons that have the intent of placing the target at risk of bodily harm or death are generally unprotected.
LINK
•Obscenity
•Fighting words
•Defamation (including libel and slander)
•Child pornography
•Perjury
•Blackmail
•Incitement to imminent lawless action
•True threats
•Solicitations to commit crimes
Criminal solicitation law: LINK
True Threat Law: “True threats of violence” that are directed at a person or group of persons that have the intent of placing the target at risk of bodily harm or death are generally unprotected.
LINK
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:07 am to S1C EM
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Specificity has nothing to do with it
It has everything to do with it, actually
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The only ground you have in this case is that nothing happened.
The ground I have is the Supreme Court
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You can’t guarantee that will be the case every time he makes such a statement, particularly as the audience changes.
I'm not trying to guarantee anything this moron says
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:13 am to crap4brain
Shouldn't UGA athletes be able to transfer now under the Hardship rule?
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 9:40 am
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:20 am to upgrayedd
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It has everything to do with it, actually
Specifically naming an individual as the target of encouraged violenece is not a requirement. The only thing saving this guy is that what he says can certainly be argued as not encouraging “imminent and likely” action. Problem with this is you can make that argument in most cases, but the second someone takes that person up on what they say, you just passed the “imminent” test.
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The ground I have is the Supreme Court
Ditto. And if a kid stood up in class and shot a white student (we have campus carry in GA and faculty are keenly aware that any student in any class may be carrying), he’s in trouble.
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I'm not trying to guarantee anything this moron says
We at least can agree on this.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 10:08 am to S1C EM
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Problem with this is you can make that argument in most cases, but the second someone takes that person up on what they say, you just passed the “imminent” test.
Disagree. The guy just said "white people may have to die". That's way too broad to be deemed imminent and/or likely"
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