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Unarmed man killed by cops in AL.

Posted on 2/28/16 at 3:54 am
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 2/28/16 at 3:54 am
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Josh Moon: MPD has lots of explaining to do in shooting death

Josh Moon, Montgomery Advertiser1 day agoFacebookTwitterGoogle Plusmore

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Albert Cesare / Advertiser

Kimberly Gunn, sister of Greg Gunn, grieves where her brother was shot in a more

There was another one.

Another town. Another unarmed black man. Another seemingly innocuous encounter with police. Another odd explanation of how it all turned deadly.

The difference is that this one is here — in Montgomery. In one of the oldest neighborhoods in the city, Mobile Heights.

Down McElvy  Street, a few hundred yards away from Carver Elementary School, 58-year-old Gregg Gunn was shot dead by a Montgomery Police officer after … something happened.

Exactly what that something was that led to Gunn’s death is unclear.

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THE MONTGOMERY ADVERTISER

Shock, sadness fill neighborhood after man killed by police

Walking around the Mobile Heights neighborhood, talking to neighbors and witnesses and getting a feel for the people, the neighborhood and the climate, it’s fairly obvious that Gunn wasn’t anyone’s first choice to wind up on the bad end of a cop encounter.

Sure, Gunn “was no angel,” as his brother, Kenny, put it, but there’s a big gap between angel and threatening the life of a police officer.

Gunn was arrested a dozen years ago for stealing a refrigerator and hand trucks. He had charges for bad checks the year before that. And he had outstanding traffic tickets. But there was no violence, no altercations with police, no signs of a dangerous man.

“He was scared to death of police,” Kenny said. “He might run from them, but he wouldn’t attack one. No way.”

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THE MONTGOMERY ADVERTISER

Perspective: Police, Greg Gunn and the search for facts

Family and neighbors said Gunn was the guy everyone in the neighborhood knew on a first-name basis, who cut the grass for at least four neighbors, who walked the neighborhood often as he went back and forth to and from his girlfriend’s house. Gunn's father was one of the original black officers on the MPD force and raised his children to respect cops.

They’re at a loss for how he wound up dead, killed by a cop.

From the collection of at least a half-dozen witnesses and probably two dozen people who were privy to some portion of the events of late Wednesday night and early Thursday morning, there are a few things upon which most people agree.

Gunn was leaving a neighborhood card game a block over sometime around 3 a.m. A female companion who left the game at the same time said she and Gunn saw the police cruiser near the house as they were starting to leave. They walked a short distance and then went their separate ways.

Somewhere over the next few hundred feet — in the neighborhood where Gunn had spent most of his life — an altercation between cop and Gunn ensued. What started the altercation isn’t clear, but neighbors said a rash of car break-ins a couple of blocks over had been mentioned by police.

A “slight struggle,” as Montgomery Police Chief Ernest Finley called it, took place. Then a chase that ended up in the front yard of Colvin Hinson, Gunn’s next-door neighbor. Hinson heard Gunn pounding on his front door, screaming for help and calling out for his mother.





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fired. At his news conference later, Finley said the officer saw a weapon on Gunn.

It turned out to be a painter’s stick.

What happened after the shooting raised the ire of Gunn’s family and neighbors even more. Gunn’s mother said she could hear her son screaming for help, but paramedics that arrived on the scene were turned away. Colvin and Muhammad also heard Gunn’s screams and confirmed that paramedics never went over to check on Gunn.



This post was edited on 2/28/16 at 3:57 am
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31954 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 4:00 am to
Somebody called his last name out loud,very unfortunate turn of events.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 4:08 am to
You can't watch any of the video clips in the link. It's just one commercial after another. Definitely a sad story.
Posted by whiskeyjohn
Member since Aug 2013
1153 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 4:43 am to
First off... anything written by Josh Moon should be taken with a grain of salt. He is looking for clicks with most every story he writes. He is as big a SJW as there is. And it's a darn shame because he can be a really good investigative journalist when he wants to be. But sadly, he takes the low road too often.

Now, the incident in question. Evidently, from what I have read there is video of it. People need to let the facts in the case come out before making any conclusions. If there is evidence the officer did anything illegal, then he should be arrested and treated accordingly.
Posted by fontell
Montgomery
Member since Sep 2006
4614 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 6:10 am to
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First off... anything written by Josh Moon should be taken with a grain of salt. He is looking for clicks with most every story he writes. He is as big a SJW as there is. And it's a darn shame because he can be a really good investigative journalist when he wants to be. But sadly, he takes the low road too often.

Now, the incident in question. Evidently, from what I have read there is video of it. People need to let the facts in the case come out before making any conclusions. If there is evidence the officer did anything illegal, then he should be arrested and treated accordingly.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
40383 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 6:25 am to
I bet he deserved it.
Posted by FutureRATeammember
Member since Jan 2015
4306 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 7:10 am to
I don't think an unarmed man with a paint stick deserved to die. But let's quash the meme that racist cops are running around shooting people just because of the color of their skin.

The washington post researched police shootings in 2015, they found that of the 990 people shot and killed by the police in 2015, only 258 were black.

That 990 seems high and we really need to address the militarization of the police. But it doesn't help when our national leaders are fear mongering by spreading the lie blacks are being systematically targeted by the police.
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 7:21 am to
So he was using the paint stick as a jimmy to break into cars?
Posted by ArmyHogs
Your mom's house
Member since Feb 2012
10819 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 7:34 am to
I can't believe how many nerves of steel and can keep calm under any amount of pressure dudes post on this site. I bet if the OT were the police, there would never be an incident again.
Posted by gar90
Member since Sep 2009
6571 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 7:55 am to
He dindu nuffin. He's just a poor unarmed black man gunned down by them racist cops. He would never hurt nobody.



Yes, I'm making fun of the people who will inevitably make fun of this horrific situation.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 8:00 am to
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Somebody called his last name out loud,very unfortunate turn of events.


My first thought as well:

"Mr Gunn, put your hands up and turn around!"

"Gun?!"

Bang, bang.

All it takes is one skittish cop.
This post was edited on 2/28/16 at 8:04 am
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 8:26 am to
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All it takes is one skittish cop.
Guess what then? You shouldn't be a cop, or at least one who goes out on patrol. Sure it is natural for everyone to get scared or nervous in a situation, but as a cop you have to expect dangerous situations to happen a lot and you have to be a lot calmer and not be so trigger happy. Plus this was an old guy, with no weapon at all. Another reason why we need body cameras on cops. Both sides should want it, as it proves who was truly right and not going on what he said and she said.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139227 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 8:42 am to
Live by the Gunn, die by the gun.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 8:57 am to
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Body camreas

Both sides should want it


I don't think anybody who's not a cop doesn't want it.

Cops don't want it because they are fallible and make mistakes, and one mistake today can at a minimum end your career, and with a little less luck, throw you in jail.

And TBH, I'm not sure the standard I want to set for our police force is perfection or jail.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 9:00 am to
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. Both sides should want it








The cops don't want it for obvious reasons. If the general public knew how cops treat people on a daily basis that party would be over and they would have to raise their professional standards.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95095 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 9:04 am to
Since you posted this crap, why don't you start a thread about the girl that was killed in Virginia a day after she was sworn in on her first shift?
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15979 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 9:15 am to
"What's your last name, son?"


"It's Gunn, sir."



"Everybody get down. He says he has a gun."
This post was edited on 2/28/16 at 9:16 am
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 9:23 am to
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Prominentwon








For some odd reason it's not letting me downvote your crappy post.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
128544 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 9:35 am to
Why did they kill a guy without any arms?
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 9:41 am to
So cops shot him and then wouldn't let the paramedics tend to him? If true, frick those cops and I hope they rot in hell. If true, the riots will be well warranted
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