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re: ULL Coach Robichaux discusses "Daddy Ball"

Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:00 pm to
Posted by threeputt
God's Country
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:00 pm to
Looks like he needs some more travel ball players on his team tonight
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40094 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:04 pm to
He makes some good points but I don't remember the top kids sitting on the bench much back in the days before travel ball.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17779 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:05 pm to
I love hearing the parents of a kid who has played 6 years of travel ball explain that their kids quit the high school team because they were not going to play despite being "better" than the other kids. The go on to say that the coach hates them and that's why he quit.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38945 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:06 pm to
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Same goes for soccer...the kids know the difference between a C1 team and a C3 team.


What is the difference? I've never seen C1 or C3 referred to in relation to our tournaments. We play in the Cup Division or Gold brackets, but we're in a no mans land between the best teams and the Silver teams so they usually bump us up to fill out the brackets.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:16 pm to
In Louisiana (LSA) league play your competitive divisions are divided up between C1-C3 or C4. That is the level of the more competitive teams.

For the tourneys you're referring to they divide them up into gold, silver and bronze divisions.

So a C1 team would play in the gold division and a C3 team would play in the bronze division.
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 9:17 pm
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19402 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:54 pm to
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I don't think anyone can deny that travel ball creates entitled douchey self absorbed prima Donna types


I'm not a travel ball coach. I've been coaching Dixie Youth (Rec) for over 20 years and I have to disagree with your statement. Granted there are some "prima Donna types" in travel ball but I see the same thing with some kids that only play Rec.

The common denominator with those kids are the parents. Their parents talk about the coaches and other kids in front of their own children. That's where Junior gets that shite from.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48829 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 3:18 pm to
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Yeah wasting 6 hours sitting around a track waiting for your kid to run for 4 minutes is much better use of your time.

At least they sell beer at the park in Chalmette


Well I normally go eat and drink beer between events in the air condition and certainly have beer in an ice chest.

And I wish like hell she did run it in 4 minutes. Her scholarship would be better than a baseball.

But mostly it is Cross Country which is an hour and a half for about 8 Saturday mornings in the fall.
Posted by MetTiger
Member since Oct 2007
1213 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 4:08 pm to
My kid played high level rec, travel and HS ball. I'd say that on every level - depending on the situation - a "motivated" daddy can see to it that Little Johnny is the SS, leadoff hitter and never comes out. The key word is situation - it's certainly not equal everywhere. Where star Status is only failing to get a hit 6 of 10 times, there's a lot of wiggle room.

Of course it happens, and it happens in soccer, even subjective thing like theatre and singing. Parents use their influence ("donations", bankrolling teams, etc) The big difference is that now a Daddy Ball dad can directly influence everything himself in travel ball, bypassing rec and school coaches. He can be the coach whose kid always gets the green light, whereas a better player may be called on to bunt or H&R for the "sake of the team". Any players challenging Little Johnny as team stud can be buried or sent on their way.

These Daddies enter every travel tournament, so the organizers love them. Then they get the prime time slots, and optimal opponents.

We can argue this forever, but you'd think with all of the academies, private training, travel teams, "Elite" tournaments, that the US players would be retaking the MLB from the foreign players - NOT. Worse now than ever. US baseball players do not have a true mechanism that fosters competition. And it's showing.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 4:10 pm
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155444 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 4:09 pm to
Was he wearing short pants?
Posted by MetTiger
Member since Oct 2007
1213 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 4:30 pm to
Let me add there still are some very, very good people running HS, Rec and yes, even Travel Ball...But they're getting scarcer.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 5:06 pm to
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but you'd think with all of the academies, private training, travel teams, "Elite" tournaments, that the US players would be retaking the MLB from the foreign players - NOT. Worse now than ever. US baseball players do not have a true mechanism that fosters competition. And it's showing.


Couldn't agree with you more
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
7871 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 5:41 pm to
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but you'd think with all of the academies, private training, travel teams, "Elite" tournaments, that the US players would be retaking the MLB from the foreign players - NOT. Worse now than ever. US baseball players do not have a true mechanism that fosters competition. And it's showing.


I've heard Coach Robichaux speak on this in a longer format and he talks about the high number of MLB middle infielders in particular from foreign countries. In many cases, they grow up making a glove out of a cardboard box to play, so they learn better footwork and quickness to get to the ball and field it cleanly into the body.

He's a great speaker and is pretty passionate about the game and life lessons learned from it.

Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
21911 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 6:34 pm to
They also go to baseball academys. 2 hours hitting before school, class, lunch, class, 2 hours fielding after school. The take 2-300 ground balls, fly balls a day. American kids don't get that in a week.
Posted by 3en
Member since May 2015
507 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 7:10 pm to
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a hose pipe


This is where "baw" can finally be used in correct context.
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