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Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:10 pm to
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they are getting torn down in the media as being savages, but they have compassion too.. they're not all radicals. klitschko negotiated to get them out peacefully.



I think that's huge. All my Ukrainian buddies say these guys are the poor welfare-class type scumbags and lowlifes that are protesting. Getting paid and fed to protest, etc. They can use the good press.

All my Ukrainian friends can talk about is the dead cops. They're all western Ukrainians, though.
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 8:11 pm
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:11 pm to
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All my Ukrainian friends can talk about is the dead cops. They're all western Ukrainians, though.


ironic cause the west is on the protesters' side.. the east is the faction that supports the govt.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14964 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:11 pm to
I know they don't want to use whatever weapons the security guys had but it seems like just having them would have given them a little negotiating leverage.
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13908 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:12 pm to
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ironic cause the west is on the protesters' side.. the east is the faction that supports the govt.



My apologies, they're Eastern-ish. I get the directions all messed up over there. They're all from Mykolaiv.
Posted by Zed
Member since Feb 2010
8315 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:13 pm to
Letting them go was smart, but take the shields and helmets. They probably had bulletproof vests too. shite, you have to take those.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77820 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:14 pm to
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Letting them go was smart, but take the shields and helmets. They probably had bulletproof vests too. shite, you have to take those.
Exactly. The moral high ground doesn't amount to much when someone has a gun pointed at you.
Posted by Macphisto
Washington, DC
Member since Jul 2005
5951 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:17 pm to
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Exactly. The moral high ground doesn't amount to much when someone has a gun pointed at you.

Actually it means more than anything at that point, as far as achieving the movement's goals. They're seeking a democratic transition to a new government, not a civil war.
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 8:18 pm
Posted by Zed
Member since Feb 2010
8315 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:19 pm to
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Actually it means more than anything at that point, as far as achieving the movement's goals.
We're talking shields and helmets and vests. These are defensive. I don't think they take a PR hit for that.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126853 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:19 pm to
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the east is the faction that supports the govt.



aka Russia
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:19 pm to
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Actually it means more than anything at that point, as far as achieving the movement's goals. They're seeking a democratic transition to a new government, not a civil war.


EXACTLY
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77820 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:20 pm to
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Actually it means more than anything at that point, as far as achieving the movement's goals.
Yea, you are right about that. You must have to be a true believer to go it with the martyr mindset. Global communications helps as well.

Scruffy would rather survive to fight another day though.
Posted by Jarlaxle
Calimport
Member since Dec 2010
2876 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:20 pm to
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"collect new berkut power, 4 and 2 buses already fixed near center Kyiv! it is going to be very danger. |PR News" Euromaidan PR Twitter Looks like the Berkut have brought in reinforcements



looks like this tweet might have been legit after all

Posted by nastynelly
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
3007 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:44 pm to
I have the live feed on but would love a quick breakdown. Imminent actions and the like.

ETA: I understand that the opposition has refused the power share. Just anything I should be looking out for to see as good tv.
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 8:47 pm
Posted by Macphisto
Washington, DC
Member since Jul 2005
5951 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:51 pm to
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Protesters're cleaning trash in the Ukrainian house. It's about 5 am!!! #euromaidan #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/QG3JpXgvf2


Versus

Police who beat protesters on Jan. 22 awarded medals for "exemplary execution of duties"

6:45 p.m., Jan. 24 -- For their "exemplary execution of duties" on Jan. 22, the day in which police forces brutally beat and drove back protesters on Hrushevskoho Street in Kyiv, Eastern Territorial Command of the Internal Ministry Troops were awarded service medals, according to a post on the official site of the interior troops.

Interior Troop Major Vasily Moldavchuk presented his troops with awards on Jan. 23 for a job well done on Jan. 22 in executing their duties.


This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 9:21 pm
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49889 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 9:52 pm to
I can't believe they gave awards to those guys.
Posted by mikeboss550
Member since Apr 2013
10995 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 9:54 pm to
If you don't tweet @CNN, @MSNBC, and @Foxnews to #CoverUkraine, then i'll assume you work for Berkut
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14964 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 9:57 pm to
Tweeted verbatim.
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
10149 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 9:59 pm to
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I can't believe they gave awards to those guys.


that's the corrupt Govt's way of using "Psychology" to reward the LEO's for protecting the Mother Land

basically, "You got our back, we got your back"

if the riot police ever crossed lines, their families would end up swimming with the fishes
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49889 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 10:14 pm to
I forgot all about the families of the cops. Those cops are in a hell of a bind.
Posted by bigeztiger
Columbus Ohio
Member since Jul 2011
5092 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:34 pm to
This thread fell to page 2???

GEAUXmedic?
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