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Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:03 pm to Zed
quote:It looks like protesters guarding those leaving? Or not.
They didn't let them keep their swag did they? Those are protestors in front with the shields right?
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:04 pm to GEAUXmedic
quote:So, the protestors let the cops leave with their shields and weapons?
got to keep their shields and weapons
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:05 pm to Scruffy
quote:
So, the protestors let the cops leave with their shields and weapons?
yes, it makes them look good. they're not here to tear them down, they're here to change their country.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:06 pm to GEAUXmedic
quote:I guess so. I still think it was a pretty dumb decision.
yes, it makes them look good. they're not here to tear them down, they're here to change their country.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:06 pm to Scruffy
quote:
I guess so. I still think it was a pretty dumb decision.
nah, those kids weren't the ones they're after... they're just glorified security guards
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:06 pm to GEAUXmedic
Euromaidan PR ?@EuromaidanPR 3m
Most if not all police have left the Ukrainian House and it is now occupied by protesters |PR News #euromaidan #Kyiv #Ukraine
Most if not all police have left the Ukrainian House and it is now occupied by protesters |PR News #euromaidan #Kyiv #Ukraine
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:07 pm to Scruffy
quote:Seems awfully stupid to me too.
If they did, these protestors are idiots and they deserve to lose.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:08 pm to Zed
quote:
Seems awfully stupid to me too.
they are getting torn down in the media as being savages, but they have compassion too.. they're not all radicals. klitschko negotiated to get them out peacefully.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:08 pm to GEAUXmedic
quote:Well, yea, it is a good decision to let them go unharmed, but letting them take their shields and weapons with them?
nah, those kids weren't the ones they're after... they're just glorified security guards
Scruffy doesn't agree with that.
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:10 pm to GEAUXmedic
quote:
they are getting torn down in the media as being savages, but they have compassion too.. they're not all radicals. klitschko negotiated to get them out peacefully.
I think that's huge. All my Ukrainian buddies say these guys are the poor welfare-class type scumbags and lowlifes that are protesting. Getting paid and fed to protest, etc. They can use the good press.
All my Ukrainian friends can talk about is the dead cops. They're all western Ukrainians, though.
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:11 pm to Mizzeaux
quote:
All my Ukrainian friends can talk about is the dead cops. They're all western Ukrainians, though.
ironic cause the west is on the protesters' side.. the east is the faction that supports the govt.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:11 pm to Scruffy
I know they don't want to use whatever weapons the security guys had but it seems like just having them would have given them a little negotiating leverage.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:12 pm to GEAUXmedic
quote:
ironic cause the west is on the protesters' side.. the east is the faction that supports the govt.
My apologies, they're Eastern-ish. I get the directions all messed up over there. They're all from Mykolaiv.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:13 pm to GEAUXmedic
Letting them go was smart, but take the shields and helmets. They probably had bulletproof vests too. shite, you have to take those. 
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:14 pm to Zed
quote:Exactly. The moral high ground doesn't amount to much when someone has a gun pointed at you.
Letting them go was smart, but take the shields and helmets. They probably had bulletproof vests too. shite, you have to take those.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:17 pm to Scruffy
quote:Actually it means more than anything at that point, as far as achieving the movement's goals. They're seeking a democratic transition to a new government, not a civil war.
Exactly. The moral high ground doesn't amount to much when someone has a gun pointed at you.
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:19 pm to Macphisto
quote:We're talking shields and helmets and vests. These are defensive. I don't think they take a PR hit for that.
Actually it means more than anything at that point, as far as achieving the movement's goals.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:19 pm to GEAUXmedic
quote:
the east is the faction that supports the govt.
aka Russia
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:19 pm to Macphisto
quote:
Actually it means more than anything at that point, as far as achieving the movement's goals. They're seeking a democratic transition to a new government, not a civil war.
EXACTLY
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