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re: UC Berkeley students demand building be named after convicted cop killer
Posted on 3/21/15 at 7:29 am to WaltTeevens
Posted on 3/21/15 at 7:29 am to WaltTeevens
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You are obtuse. You have no idea what it means to be a minority. Support systems can help.....maybe not renaming buildings, but it can be hard feeling different from practically everyone around you. But..you will never know, because you're too afraid to get out of your comfort zone.
My entire life I've lived in a city over 50% African American, with a large Latino American sector. Us Euro-Americans are the minority here.
Posted on 3/21/15 at 7:32 am to WaltTeevens
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I am, however, tired of white people acting as if they are victims of the universe. Just kindly shut the hell up and enjoy your privilege. Have you ever been anything besides white? No? Then you have one perspective, and you should stray far away from anything else. Being white in America is not hard. I am not making excuses for black people, but goddamn...even the yankees blessed you dixie bastards and welcomed you back into the fold. Enjoy it, have a Coke and a smile, and let black people be pissed off.
You have been brainwashed.
Posted on 3/21/15 at 7:37 am to TheSassyOne
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This post was edited on 3/21/15 at 7:44 am
Posted on 3/21/15 at 9:20 am to TheSassyOne
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I've lots more experiences I could share, but I won't. So no, my statements were not at all extreme. BTW, I never said I didn't explain in situations like that my status, but the problem is why people stereotype. She'd forgotten she had met me, the only black faculty member but why did she assume I was there to clean up after her and everyone else?
and there are people who are stereotyped for other reasons besides race. Personally, I look very young, and I can't even begin to tell you how many times I've been stereotyped as someone much younger than my age. I have a college degree and at times I'm not even assumed to have completed high school. I even get treated as if I'm some young high school punk without saying a word. Is that fair that I don't get any respect because of their misguided assumptions? there's a thousand different ways people get stereotyped, skin color I'd say is not stereotyped anymore than fat people, people with tattoos, people who dress a certain way etc.
Posted on 3/21/15 at 9:35 am to tiggerthetooth
I almost typed "tigger just totally owned walt." then I realized it maybe taken out of context.
Posted on 3/21/15 at 9:42 am to cwil177
When no one has the balls to tell them "no" and then put them on ignore, this kind of nonsense will continue.
Years ago, Shreveport's version of Sharpton sent a letter to some NW Louisiana employers accusing them of having a racially unbalanced workforce and demanding all sorts of employment information. Wisely, the employers tossed the letter in the trash, and nothing ever happened.
The students are just being young and dumb. If they truly think about it, they really should be troubled by their demands for employees of a specific race and for a meeting hall for a specific race.
Years ago, Shreveport's version of Sharpton sent a letter to some NW Louisiana employers accusing them of having a racially unbalanced workforce and demanding all sorts of employment information. Wisely, the employers tossed the letter in the trash, and nothing ever happened.
The students are just being young and dumb. If they truly think about it, they really should be troubled by their demands for employees of a specific race and for a meeting hall for a specific race.
Posted on 3/21/15 at 9:47 am to brass2mouth
Asian studsnts came here under completely different pretenses--basically indians Latinos and blacks lost their lives so they wouldn't have to deal with the racial history that those groups have to . Mainly all they have to do is work hard and assimilate and they will be fine. and it doesn't hurt when many of your students are already PHD and professional school educated when thet get here. they are already on path tho howard mobility
Posted on 3/21/15 at 9:51 am to StrongSafety
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StrongSafety
How do you perceive upper middle class Africans who immigrate here and then want to identify with African Americans in the 'struggle'?
I have several black friends who harbor disdain for that demographic as they are much more like Asian immigrants in most cases(educated and smart/cheap as frick with money)
This post was edited on 3/21/15 at 9:57 am
Posted on 3/21/15 at 9:59 am to mikelbr
Well group identification is a tricky thing, and it usually depends on the person and their experiences. The experiences that come from certain shares traits are unavoidable for some.
There's a reason wnh for so many years biracial people self identified as black as opposed to mixed or white. Black self identification within the US and through the diaspora may be due to the hack that world unjustly looks unfavorably upon people of blsck decent on every content except Africa. In that, there is a shared experience, and I think some people run to that for comfort and solace, despite different languages, cultures and customs.
From what I've read and and heard about, is that there are sometimes some shared experiences that the groups endure. There was a good article on NBC.com about Caribbean americans and how they assimilate
There's a reason wnh for so many years biracial people self identified as black as opposed to mixed or white. Black self identification within the US and through the diaspora may be due to the hack that world unjustly looks unfavorably upon people of blsck decent on every content except Africa. In that, there is a shared experience, and I think some people run to that for comfort and solace, despite different languages, cultures and customs.
From what I've read and and heard about, is that there are sometimes some shared experiences that the groups endure. There was a good article on NBC.com about Caribbean americans and how they assimilate
This post was edited on 3/21/15 at 10:05 am
Posted on 3/21/15 at 10:02 am to mikelbr
I mean, most immigrant groups share many of the same qualities.
Most are highly educated, well off and conservatices. But one group may or may not have to deal with the racial crap that goes on in this country due to a shared trait. Asians can largely stay out of that realm and assume their "docile" stereotype (so not true).
They really don't have a bone to pick so to speak.
Most are highly educated, well off and conservatices. But one group may or may not have to deal with the racial crap that goes on in this country due to a shared trait. Asians can largely stay out of that realm and assume their "docile" stereotype (so not true).
They really don't have a bone to pick so to speak.
Posted on 3/21/15 at 10:27 am to StrongSafety
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They really don't have a bone to pick so to speak.
Word. I was just kind of surprised by that animosity in some. But I can see where it comes from.
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