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re: Uber and Lyft leave Austin over increased regulation. SXSW suffers

Posted on 3/23/17 at 1:20 pm to
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40991 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 1:20 pm to
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But in typical Liberal fashion, they went with the scare tactics and 'your Uber driver might murder you' to barely win a vote that almost no one took part in.


That's not really what happened here. Sure, the regulation to fingerprint was touted as a safety measure, but Uber and Lyft went from winning the vote to losing it because of their actions. They annoyed the frick out of people to the point people said, frick these guys. It may have been a dumb outburst in the long run, but it wasn't undeserved.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 1:21 pm to
Ride Austin isn't the only service.

There are 3/4 others.
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
15329 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 1:22 pm to
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I completely stopped drinking and driving because of them. Taxis from New Orleans don't want to come to Metairie to snatch ya boy up. What do you think I'm gonna do when I want to go out if they stop?


Other than MSY, I think it's against the law (?) for an Orleans-based taxi company to pick up in Jefferson Parish. And the same for Jefferson-based taxis, they may not pick up in Orleans.

Both sides can drop off in either parish, but I thought they couldn't pick up.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40991 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 1:24 pm to
Well Red, they may as well make it illegal to drop off, because if you want a cab to even take you Uptown from the Quarter they threw a fricking fit. I had one essentially try to make us fall out of the cab by hitting the gas while the door was open. We had learned not to tell them our destination until we were in. Then they'd fake the CC machine was broken. Etc. frick cabs

It must be nice to have a life with nothing to lose so you can run your fist right through their stomach.
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 1:26 pm
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
50501 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 1:25 pm to
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Ride Austin isn't the only service.

There are 3/4 others.



Gotcha. I still don't like the idea of kicking out Uber and Lyft over the fingerprinting issue. If people are uncomfortable riding with an Uber/Lyft driver, it sounds like they'd have several other options.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40991 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 1:28 pm to
It's hard to explain but the vote ended up being less about the regulation and more about how Uber/Lyft campaigned. People here can tell you how they'd be hassled just hanging out with their friends to vote Ubers way. It got annoying. Can you imagine how many people you can annoy with 7 million dollars?

It was a protest vote. Not a "liberals hate freedom" vote. That doesn't change one's opinion of the effects of that vote, but someone using the same cliche is just showing their ignorance on the subject.

Btw the voters didn't "kick out Uber" they voluntarily left.

Also, Uber Eats still operates in the city
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 1:32 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 1:34 pm to
Overregulation makes a mockery of our concept that it's to protect the citizen. We're over regulated to protect specific interests or companies.


quote:

We have lost that which has made us great over the generations, and that is the sense of individual and personal responsibility that we can come up, we can pursue our dreams and our aspirations and we won't be blocked by government regulation, by the inability to get a loan as a small business to make our dreams come true. Jon Huntsman Jr
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
43535 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 2:04 pm to
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According to the pair’s findings, along with this entrepreneurial bent comes a sense of financial responsibility. Some 84 percent of Gen Z’ers identify as fiscally moderate or conservative. “This group has entered young adulthood as fiscally conservative, which I don’t think you can say about Millennials,” Grace said. “Budget cuts and the recession have been so [present] in their lives.” This sense of financial responsibility — combined with a lack of faith in government — leads to a self-deterministic mindset that looks for the root causes of social problems.



LINK /


Conservative propaganda web site. Try again.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 2:08 pm to
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Conservative propaganda web site. Try again


Generation Z is gonna frick up the nanny state. Thank God.
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 2:10 pm to
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Opponents also warned the regulation would disproportionately impact people of color, due to the fact that it includes arrest records rather than just convictions.


Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
50501 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 2:22 pm to
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Conservative propaganda web site. Try again.



It's from a book that polled 1100 Gen Z college students.
LINK

If you want to disagree with the findings of the book, fine. But an excerpt being posted on a conservative site as opposed to a "neutral" one doesn't make a difference, unless you think that they're outright lying about the findings of the book.

And why would a "conservative propaganda" promote/falsify an increase in Libertarianism?
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 2:31 pm to
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City, backed by Cab Union/companies pushing these regulations?


personally i'm glad they did it. a whole generation of stupid fricking liberals get a demonstration of the effect of stupid regulations and there are tens of thousands on the books. they also have to square it with their dislike of their unreasonable dislike of corporations squashing the little guy. i do have my problems with corporations (a recent development) but they buy pols because the alternative is getting fricked by them.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11842 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 2:36 pm to
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Hey, let's leave California because it's too overbearing and move to a new place and try to make it just like the place we left because it was too often overbearing


Coming to a city near you, soon.
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
33877 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 2:47 pm to
I remember, before I left - there was some confusing information (or dis-information) that the proposed ordinance was confusing, in regards to the fingerprint thing

something along the lines, that since the Uber drivers were independent contractors, "signing in" and "signing out" at will, they would have to get some sort of electronic clearance via the fingerprint/background check thing, every time they tried to login to start driving.

I have no clue if that was propaganda, true misunderstanding or purposeful drama from the local media to drive clicks

dont think this was all about "safety" either - Yellow Cab (who, btw is the ONLY cab company in Austin) was lobbying pretty hard for anything to frustrate Uber/Lyft. They even got the city to take some prime street parking and designate it for "taxi stand only" - which is complete bullshite
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
43535 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 2:59 pm to
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If you want to disagree with the findings of the book, fine


A book can't be propaganda? Read this quote from the book:

"Our findings indicate that nearly three-quarters of them are very concerned about limitations on personal freedom and do not want the government to control gun ownership, access to abortion, euthanasia, and marriage, reflecting more of a libertarian viewpoint."

The authors make the interpretation this is a libertarian viewpoint. From my perspective, It's a liberal viewpoint with gun ownership being the outlier.How they got libertarian out of this I don't know.



Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
50501 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:20 pm to
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A book can't be propaganda? Read this quote from the book:



They polled people and wrote about the results. Maybe they posed questions to get pro-freedom responses from the students. I don't know, and I don't care to spend money to find out.

And if the book is propaganda, again, why would a "conservative propaganda" website promote "libertarian propaganda?"

quote:

It's a liberal viewpoint with gun ownership being the outlier.How they got libertarian out of this I don't know.



Each one of those social stances fall in line with typical libertarian stances. Combined with:

quote:

Some 84 percent of Gen Z’ers identify as fiscally moderate or conservative. “This group has entered young adulthood as fiscally conservative, which I don’t think you can say about Millennials,”


then I don't know what more reasoning you want for the "Gen Z is leaning libertarian" conclusion.
Posted by Woobie
Member since Jan 2017
3366 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:10 pm to


You mean over regulation bit Liberals in the arse?

Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61604 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:16 pm to
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Generation Opportunity is a right-wing organization in the United States focused on economic policy and aimed at young adults. It is funded by the Koch brothers.


LINK



no slant here!



SXSW has been a shite show for years now. Uber and Lyft not being around doesnt change that at all.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
15936 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:18 pm to
Baton Rouge is on the verge of becoming the new Jackson. I'd say nothing the liberals and hippies can do is worse than what your racist mayor and her cronies are about to do to poor Baton Rouge.
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