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re: Tyreek Hill Arrest Footage Released
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:07 pm to geauxturbo
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:07 pm to geauxturbo
You have the mental capacity of child. “It’s my right to not comply!” That does not supersede every situation. Black out windows change the situation drastically. Go live in North Korea! Lol, I feel like you’re role playing a 19 year old girl with a poster board in front of the union
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:07 pm to Indefatigable
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didn't see hostility from the officers until the blacked out window was rolled up.
Not against the law.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:09 pm to WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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You can't possibly be as dumb as your statements make you seem.
In fact, you seem so stupid that I would wager you have never been in law enforcement or any branch of the armed forces.
Am I right?
Was in law enforcement for 20 years but I never got butt hurt over people acting within the code. I knew many who did and they were usually anfew short of a full deck. Love the military but no, never served. How about you, dumbass? You a big Constituional attorney? What does the military have to do with traffic stops and not escalating simple stops to what you see in the video?
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:10 pm to Sao
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Not against the law.
Neither is the officer asking you to roll it back down or step out of the vehicle. The officer is within the law in requiring visibility and constant avenue of communication in a lawful stop.
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:10 pm to geauxturbo
What was your position in HR?
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:11 pm to Indefatigable
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Neither is the officer ask you to roll it back down
The window was lowered, before any command to get out was given.
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:11 pm to geauxturbo
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What does the military have to do with traffic stops and not escalating simple stops to what you see in the video?
Hill was on his way inside half an hour with no charges. It was a shitty scenario from all involved, but lets not pretend like this was some egregious police violence situation.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:12 pm to Sao
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The window was lowered, before any command to get out was given.
The first time? Or did the driver refuse for a period of time?
It took him 10-12 seconds to crack the window--and that isn't going to cut it with a blacked out window anyway. The officer cannot see what may be in his lap. They are going to want it down all the way for that purpose in that scenario.
Again, reasonable adults understand that and don't try and play constitutional scholar at a traffic stop and whine when they trigger the cop.
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:13 pm to OMLandshark
I usually bend over backwards to give the cops the benefit of the doubt but these cops were a disgrace.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:15 pm to Indefatigable
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The first time? Or did the driver refuse for a period of time?
What first time? The window was down when the cop approached him. Hill has his DL out of it giving it to officer 1. He rolled it up as O1 was walking away.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:16 pm to Sao
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What first time?
The first time the officer said "keep the window down" when he first rolled it up around the 23 second mark in the OP.
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He rolled it up as O1 was walking away.
And was told to keep it down, and didn't. Having your license isn't the only thing the cops care about. There could be a weapon in the vehicle elsewhere. You have to try pretty hard to not understand that.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:17 pm to Indefatigable
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The first time the officer said "keep the window down" when he first rolled it up around the 23 second mark in the OP.
That does not happen.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:17 pm to geauxturbo
Looks like I was right...about the first statement!
I'm a dumbass, huh?
Seriously. You were in law enforcement but act you don't understand the use of force continuum applied to a subject who seems to be verbally and physically non-compliant?
Think about that.
Then ask yourself...who's the dumbass?
I'm a dumbass, huh?
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What does the military have to do with traffic stops and not escalating simple stops to what you see in the video?
Seriously. You were in law enforcement but act you don't understand the use of force continuum applied to a subject who seems to be verbally and physically non-compliant?
Think about that.
Then ask yourself...who's the dumbass?
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:19 pm to Sao
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That does not happen.
Watch it again. When the officer whose bodycam is on turns away, you can hear the other officer saying "keep it down, keep that window down" at approximately 23-26 seconds in. He doesn't crack it open until 12-15 seconds later, and as I've said, cracking a blacked out window isn't going to cut it anyways.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:22 pm to Indefatigable
No, it did not happen like you want it to. Hill wasn't told to keep the window down prior to him turning away. He did not utter the sentence "hey, keep your window down" until it was completely and already all the way up.
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:23 pm to Indefatigable
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and as I've said, cracking a blacked out window isn't going to cut it anyways.
Not against the law. You want it to be, but it's not.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:25 pm to Sao
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No, it did not happen like you want it to. Hill wasn't told to keep the window down prior to him turning away. He did not utter the sentence "hey, keep your window down" until it was completely and already all the way up.
At which point the appropriate response was to immediately roll the window back down, however you want to interpret the timeline.
The officer at Hill's window first say "keep it down" at the 24 second mark. Hill didn't comply with that for 15 seconds, and even then only cracked it.
Its not reasonable behavior on Hill's part there. I don't know why you're trying to defend it. The cops after that got on their high horse and also acted like morons, but pretending like this is the gestapo in action is just dumb.
Demanding that Hill keep his blacked out window down for the duration of the stop is entirely lawful.
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 11:27 pm
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:29 pm to steve123
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If you're an officer in that situation you want that window down the whole time. Your life may depend on it.”
Yeah what you want and what you need don’t always jive.
Tyreek Hill was being a 3 on the douchebag skill then the cop decided to be a 5, then up it to a 6, then 7, then 8.
Can’t get all in your feelings when dealing with Wingstop Americans on a daily basis and you have a firearm. Not a good recipe.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:30 pm to Sao
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Not against the law. You want it to be, but it's not
Again, no one, at least not me, is saying that it is against the law to roll your blacked out window up. He can't be charged or cited for that, wasn't, and won't be.
But it is entirely lawful for the officer to require that the blacked out window be rolled down for the duration of the stop, and for the officer to require Hill to get out of the vehicle when he delayed doing so and then only cracked the blacked out window.
Now, did the cops go WAY overboard after that point? Absolutely. Zero argument there. As soon as the window came down further and even when the door opened, there was no threat and everything should have deescalated from there. Putting him in cuffs was stupid and unnecessary.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:31 pm to Chad504boy
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When you treat an officer like an a-hole, don’t expect different behavior in return
That’s the exact opposite attitude cops should have. If it’s a good, legal citation or arrest then stand on that ground.
Leave your ego out of it. People can say whatever they want. Not saying it’s right but they are free to do it.
Cops have badges and guns. They need to be best models of patience and good judgment.
If you fly off the handle when someone says “shut up you stupid pig” then you aren’t cut out to be a cop.
You got to let it roll off you and stay professional.
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