- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Trying to settle a heated argument about rape
Posted on 6/17/15 at 7:05 am to Navytiger74
Posted on 6/17/15 at 7:05 am to Navytiger74
quote:
friend of the mattress girl at Columbia says that the guy who is suing the school (the accused) sexually assaulted her as well. How, you ask? He followed her into a bedroom at a party and came on strong with an unwanted physical advance. She said no and pushed him back, and then walked out of the room unimpeded.
You may not like it, but that fits within the definition of assault. More so if she had knowledge of the alleged rape of her friend.
Not saying the guy nexessarily should be in jail for it, I just won't dismiss the notion that he could deserve to go to jail for it. Depending on the details.
1
Posted on 6/17/15 at 7:06 am to Jimbeaux
quote:
Agenda driven research is a huge problem.
I would agree 1000%.
quote:
forgive me when I say that I simply don't trust a lot of the supposed research on this topic
I don't either. I honestly think the numbers are too low. Every woman I have EVER dated, ever...has confessed some forced sex. Maybe they were lying to make me like them or maybe they felt comfortable telling me.
quote:
especially any statistic that talks about the number of unreported rapes (how do they know) and especially unreported rapes on college campuses
Do your own research. Find 10 women you know that will admit to being raped (sex without consent or incapable of giving consent)...and asked them if they reported it.
IF you know someone who was raped and reported it, count that as reported.
But I did agree...You show me a stat that says 5 out of 10 politicians are full of shite, and I will show you one that says 5 out of 10 are not.
But like I said, if you want to go from my experience...I think the numbers are much higher. Go to the Penthouse club and tell them you are a rape counselor...it will ruin your night.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 7:07 am to Wayne Campbell
quote:
You may not like it, but that fits within the definition of assault. More so if she had knowledge of the alleged rape of her friend.
So anytime you misread a signal and pull a girl in for a kiss but get rebuffed, that's assault? He didn't push her down on the bed or anything. He was aggressive, but who hasn't been under the influence. You've never given a girl an extra "come on" after initially being told some typically soft version of "not now".
These new standards don't fricking reflect the reality of how men and women interact. At all.
This post was edited on 6/17/15 at 7:42 am
Posted on 6/17/15 at 7:10 am to Navytiger74
quote:
Most of us would challenge how broadly the terms "rape" and "sexual assault" are now applied.
If you click on the link I provided it says that.
Rape/Sexual Assault is forced sex or sex without consent (or with someone incapable of giving consent: under age, mentally disable, unconscious, under the influence of drugs or alcohol ie. Darren Sharper/Bill Cosby)
That's pretty straight forward to me.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 7:11 am to Navytiger74
quote:
So anytime you misread a signal and pull a girl in for a kiss but get rebuffed, that's assault? He didn't push her down on the bed or anything.
Depending on context it could be was his point I believe, not that it always is no matter what. I think he was going not for the misread a signal angle and towards the knew it wasn't on the table and did it anyway situation
Posted on 6/17/15 at 7:28 am to Futures Bleak
No
Posted on 6/17/15 at 7:43 am to JodyPlauche
quote:
f you click on the link I provided it says that.
Rape/Sexual Assault is forced sex or sex without consent
I can promise you the numbers that are being "under reported" reflect a lot more than that reasonable and straightforward definition.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 7:58 am to Navytiger74
quote:
the numbers that are being "under reported"
The way they get their "under reported" numbers are by asking questions that meet the standard of rape, that many don't identify as rape or never put 2 and 2 together. For example:
Have you ever been to a party, had to much to drink, fallen asleep, and then woke up next to someone who had sex with you? Did you think you were raped? Did you call the police?
If they did not report that...then it is under reported and happened.
How many families keep sexual abuse a secret? See The Duggars'.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 8:07 am to Futures Bleak
Woman that lie and get caught, should face some kind of penalty. Most of the time detectives/law enforcement just drop it. There should be harsh punishment for false reporting.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 8:10 am to xxGEAUXxx
quote:
Woman that lie and get caught, should face some kind of penalty. Most of the time detectives/law enforcement just drop it. There should be harsh punishment for false reporting.
Every Sexual Assault Advocate I know agrees with this statement. Every "False Accusation" hurts the cause.
The problem is...the public believes "unfounded" accusations are "False Accusations" and they are not the same. Just because someone makes a claim that can not be proven in this countries court...does not mean its false.
See Jeff Ross' special roast of the prisoners.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 8:13 am to xxGEAUXxx
Their argument is if they did persue charges in those situations, women would be less likely to come out and admit they were lying.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 8:18 am to northshorebamaman
quote:
False rape accusations are far more common than the feminists claim but I still don't think it's the majority.
This is my feeling as well.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 8:19 am to Futures Bleak
why would you be having this"heated argument"?
Posted on 6/17/15 at 9:10 am to wildtigercat93
quote:
someone says something that's can't be taken back
Clayton Williams on rape:
"As long as it’s inevitable, you might as well lie back and enjoy it,” he said.
This post was edited on 6/17/15 at 9:11 am
Posted on 6/17/15 at 9:26 am to GreatLakesTiger24
I agree. Certain states has a law for false reports. But I know plenty of times the investigator tells the accused party just move on and count your lucky stars. I've heard some cases people seeked legal damages.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 9:29 am to Futures Bleak
quote:
Do you think there are more bogus rape cases than actual real ones? i.e., a girl lying to the police about not giving consent.
We live in a slut shaming environment. Girls go out, get drunk, get laid, and then wake up with a ton of regret because they think they're now a slut.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 9:34 am to JodyPlauche
quote:
How many families keep sexual abuse a secret?
Or how many rape victims do?
For some there is a shame to this and a feeling that they were somehow at fault.
I'm not saying some men have not been falsely accused but there are some women or even young girls who do not report it due to the shame and humiliation of it.
This post was edited on 6/17/15 at 9:38 am
Posted on 6/17/15 at 9:42 am to jmcs68
quote:
Or how many rape victims do?
I remember when the "I was raped/sexually abused as a child but didn't remember anything about it until my therapist told me" craze began, circa the beginning of the Sally Jesse Raphael, Oprah, etc. era, seems like every girl I dated after that phenomenon began had been raped, it would come up right out of the gates like it was a status symbol or badge of honor, another type of stolen valor I suppose
Posted on 6/17/15 at 9:44 am to 777Tiger
quote:
it would come up right out of the gates like it was a status symbol or badge of honor, another type of stolen valor I suppose
That honestly sicken me to read that.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 9:48 am to jmcs68
quote:
That honestly sicken me to read that.
it got old real quick, thankfully it didn't last long, I had known women that had been raped and as traumatic as it was for them I would imagine it was one more slap in the face to them and served to keep the wounds festering
Page 3 of 4
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News