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re: Trump dives into a bowl of delicious Mexican fare

Posted on 5/5/16 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58625 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

One of the basic tenets of his initial campaign was that we had to build a wall and make them pay for it. He said they were coming across our borders and raping our women.


where's the fallacy in that statement?

welll they are coming across the borders, I see people are exported daily in the news.

And i believe i could go to the Houston paper and find a rape story with the accuser being a non american citizen that is from mexico.

CAD i think you have him.
Posted by Chicagoland Tiger
North Scottsdale
Member since Feb 2011
305 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 4:00 pm to
He has a lot of friends that are Mexicans....they are tremendous people...
Posted by Canard Noir
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1397 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 4:00 pm to
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I offered to have a civil conversation in response to our differing ideologies even though your reposnse to me was off topic ok lets revisit your comment: quote:One of the basic tenets of his initial campaign was that we had to build a wall and make them pay for it. He said they were coming across our borders and raping our women. where's the fallacy in that statement?


OK, now we're talking... I was addressing why his taco post was condescending. Knowing that he said that Mexicans were raping our women, how is one supposed to view his, "I love Mexicans?" That is all I was saying but you called me an idiot. thanks for that BTW...
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58625 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 4:00 pm to
Slo, you feeling the burn?
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70176 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

i'm voting for neither


I am fine with that I just don't see how anyone can vote for hillary
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94676 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 4:02 pm to
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Knowing that he said that Mexicans were raping our women
quote:

Mexicans were raping our women
quote:

Mexicans


thats a pretty broad jump from the illegals he is talking about vs regular mexicans who came here legally.

quote:

how is one supposed to view his, "I love Mexicans?"


in the exact way i initially responded to you; why is it so hard to understand he's talking about illegal immigrants here?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56772 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 4:03 pm to
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Slo, you feeling the burn?



He's probably feeling the Johnson.

Even though he should be feeling the McAfee.
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
36327 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 4:03 pm to
I used to think trump was genuinely an idiot then I realized he is some type of legendary political troll. Skip Bayless takes on Washingron.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 4:03 pm to
i'm happy either way
Posted by Canard Noir
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1397 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 4:05 pm to
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welll they are coming across the borders, I see people are exported daily in the news. And i believe i could go to the Houston paper and find a rape story with the accuser being a non american citizen that is from mexico. CAD i think you have him.


No, he doesn't have me. I'm sure illegals have raped some of our citizens but to say it happens every day and is the reason we should address building a wall is hyperbole at best. It also has nothing to do with why his taco post was condescending and disingenuous but, by all means, keep trying to read into what I said....
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58625 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 4:07 pm to
IMO, whit how the parties are set up now, voting for a no name independent is a waste of a vote.

Whats the odds of a non republican or non democrat winning. Has to be int he fractions of fractions of 1 percent. If you would to bet that i would tell you, you are a bad gambler.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94676 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 4:09 pm to
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Canard Noir


so you believe he hates mexicans..the people primarily employed as laborers to build his skycrapers?

or do you think he hates criminals...mexican illegals building tunnels into california to smuggle drugs in and sneaking across the borders at all hours of the days and nights?

why are you on the side of people who are breaking the law?

why do you not want a strong wall that will eliminate the criminal element from sneaking in?

you can't enforce a law without police.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58625 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 4:09 pm to
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No, he doesn't have me.
ooohhhh k

quote:

I'm sure illegals have raped some of our citizens but to say it happens every day and is the reason we should address building a wall is hyperbole at best.
since when are hyperbole's out of bounds? Everything Hilary and Berne says is completly fact?

quote:

It also has nothing to do with why his taco post was condescending and disingenuous but, by all means, keep trying to read into what I said....
He is fricking with everyone who doesnt like him for what ever reason....And what he did worked on you.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94676 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 4:10 pm to
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voting for a no name independent is a waste of a vote.



i have a very strong feeling bob dole and al gore would take exception with that statement.


eta for those who are new: ross perot cost dole the white house and ralph nader cost al those coveted florida votes.
This post was edited on 5/5/16 at 4:12 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 4:11 pm to
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IMO, whit how the parties are set up now, voting for a no name independent is a waste of a vote.

Trump is winning LA regardless

and if the LP gets 5% of the vote, great things happen.
Posted by Canard Noir
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1397 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

so you believe he hates mexicans..the people primarily employed as laborers to build his skycrapers?


I don't believe he feels anything for anyone he employs. He's opportunistic for the cheapest labor. His clothes are made in China, does he love Communists?

quote:

or do you think he hates criminals...mexican illegals building tunnels into california to smuggle drugs in and sneaking across the borders at all hours of the days and nights?


You answered your own question on why a wall is a waste of money. How does a tunnel get stopped by a wall? There are miles and miles of tunnels already dug, spending billions on a wall and billions to maintain it is the obvious answer?

quote:

why are you on the side of people who are breaking the law?


Why do you assume I am? FTR, I'm not.

quote:

you can't enforce a law without police.


Can't argue with that.

See, why was going point by point without name calling so difficult? I get your position, how is it that there's no room to hear a different mindset?
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94676 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 4:25 pm to
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His clothes are made in China, does he love Communists?


and i'm the one who can't carry on a civil conversation?

quote:

You answered your own question on why a wall is a waste of money. How does a tunnel get stopped by a wall? There are miles and miles of tunnels already dug, spending billions on a wall and billions to maintain it is the obvious answer?


you know why we have locks on doors? it keeps out 99% of the criminals. if someone really wants to get into your house they can just throw a rock through your window.

so lets go your way, not shore up the borders and just look the other way & let everyone pour across the border unchecked.

quote:

why was going point by point without name calling so difficult?


you are making a dumb statement by criticizing his clothes. really?


eta i'm out. heading to buy some fresh limes & cointreaux to make some 'fake' messican margaritas.
This post was edited on 5/5/16 at 4:28 pm
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
21768 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

ssgtiger


I understand why you don't like Trump. You are a Astros fan and you aren't used to winning, nor winning huge.
Posted by Canard Noir
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1397 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 4:42 pm to
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and i'm the one who can't carry on a civil conversation?


Fair enough, change my response to Chinese so that it doesn't come across as me fighting back. Personally, I have to hold serious doubts towards someone who becomes a policy maker with so many business interests abroad.

quote:

you know why we have locks on doors? it keeps out 99% of the criminals. if someone really wants to get into your house they can just throw a rock through your window. so lets go your way, not shore up the borders and just look the other way & let everyone pour across the border unchecked.


I could spend $10k keeping everybody out but it won't keep anyone out who actually wants in. With so many tunnels already dug, is it unreasonable to equate tunnels with your rock? Does that justify the expense when you're already in debt?

quote:

you are making a dumb statement by criticizing his clothes. really?


I was talking about his Trump clothes lines. The ones where he employs Chinese to make. How is it dumb to make that correlation? He's a proven opportunistic businessman with the potential ability to make policy that benefits himself, that doesn't give you at least some pause? At least enough to be worth discussing?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58625 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 4:46 pm to
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I don't believe he feels anything for anyone he employs.
There was a period (before president and even before The Apprentice) where he would give out a 100 dollar bill to each new employee he met.
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