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re: Trump Appears to Approve Kei Cars (mini truck) for the U.S.A.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:22 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:22 pm to fightin tigers
And what was the real difference between the Hilux from 30 years ago and the Toyota Pickup/Tacoma?
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Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:24 pm to auggie
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Price and basic utility.
What's the price difference between similarly equipped Rangers and Hiluxes? What utility does the Hilux offer than a Ranger or Colorado doesn't?
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:24 pm to fightin tigers
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Don't see any of that changing any time soon.
The department of transportation can suspend any of those regs.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:26 pm to HenryParsons
Looks the part for small business owners.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:27 pm to fightin tigers
I owned a hilux, they were pretty indestructible
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:29 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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And what was the real difference between the Hilux from 30 years ago and the Toyota Pickup/Tacoma?
Eta, I thought you were asking the difference between the hilux then and the modern tacoma/pickup
The differences are innumerable.
Not sure if you mean the build quality or the amenities. Safety, comfort, reliability have all increased.
They left behind bare bones and the tractor-ish qualities of the past. As did most manufacturers.
For the 1990s Hilux vs Tacoma (which never really competed) the Tacoma was just the Americanized Hilux that the market wanted. More road and less tractor.
This post was edited on 12/4/25 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:32 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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What utility does the Hilux offer than a Ranger or Colorado doesn't?
That's the key right there. It is so basic and no frills. Rangers and Colorados have every bell and whistle currently required by U.S. regulations.
Like Clames already said, it fits the bill for so many small businesses, especially starting up.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:32 pm to fightin tigers
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The differences are innumerable.
Not sure if you mean the build quality or the amenities. Safety, comfort, reliability have all increased.
They left behind bare bones and the tractor-ish qualities of the past. As did most manufacturers.
No I'm talking about what was the difference back then. People in the US jizz on themselves over the thought of buying that Hilux model featured on Top Gear.
What was the difference between that model and the Toyota Pickup that was sold at the time in the US. Some mild emmisions differences?
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:34 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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What utility does the Hilux offer than a Ranger or Colorado doesn't?
a Toyota engine
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:34 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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What was the difference between that model and the Toyota Pickup that was sold at the time in the US. Some mild emmisions differences?
Realized I missed what you asked after I reread it.
For the 1990s Hilux vs Tacoma (which never really competed) the Tacoma was just the Americanized Hilux that the market wanted. More road and less tractor.
Everyone was moving to the Rangers and Dodges that were softer and better to daily drive.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:38 pm to Dire Wolf
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a Toyota engine
Not a very good selling point these days.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:40 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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a Toyota engine
Not a very good selling point these days
Engines so good they asked BMW build them one.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:43 pm to fightin tigers
You seen the shite that’s happening with toyota’s truck engines the past couple of years?
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:54 pm to Dire Wolf
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What utility does the Hilux offer than a Ranger or Colorado doesn't?
a Toyota engine
Look here, I've owned nearly every make of vehicle made, and I will tell you, the early Toyota engines (18R and 20R) weren't all that great. They were bad about blowing head gaskets.
It wasn't a cheap repair unless you could do it yourself. Even if you could, it was an all-day job.
The Toyota 22R engine was quite a bit better, I think that came in Toyota trucks starting around 83?
Which happened to be about the same time that new regulations were taking their toll on the quality of domestic engines.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:57 pm to auggie
Everyone forgets what dogs those 80s and 90s engines were in performance. Not any specific brand just deturned crap.
Any truck coming out with those specs would be shunned even at $25k.
Any truck coming out with those specs would be shunned even at $25k.
This post was edited on 12/4/25 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:59 pm to fightin tigers
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Any truck coming out with those specs would be shunned even at $25k.
That's the whole point of suspending those regulations for everybody.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:04 pm to auggie
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That's the whole point of suspending those regulations for everybody.
There is zero intent (or plans) to suspend those regulations.
Toyota isn't going to start manufacturing new lower performance engines either.
This post was edited on 12/4/25 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:06 pm to HenryParsons
Grok says the base model Suzuki’s are $6000-$9000. That’s golf cart prices.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:08 pm to HenryParsons
More options. Heck yes.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:08 pm to High C
Toyota is going to sell a shite ton of those trucks in the U.S.
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