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re: Trial set to begin in murder of Austin Metcalf by Karmelo Anthony at high school track

Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:22 pm to
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97326 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:22 pm to
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Daniel Penny, a white guy, choked a black guy on a Nyc metro train to death. The reason he choked the guy out is because of threats made by the deceased


You very well may be the dumbest poster in this thread
Posted by neworleansnotsouthla
Mid-City
Member since Dec 2023
713 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:24 pm to
How so, one got killed for words and was choked out from behind, the other tried bullying someone and was killed defense style. You're too emotional.
Posted by neworleansnotsouthla
Mid-City
Member since Dec 2023
713 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:26 pm to
Troll? lol how?
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71339 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:28 pm to
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How so, one got killed for words and was choked out from behind


Don't foeget the smell. Black bums smell worse than any other bum for some reason. It's like they are proud of it. I can imagine his scent turned people to rage.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74990 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:28 pm to
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How so, one got killed for words and was choked out from behind, the other tried bullying someone and was killed defense style


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You're too emotional.


log out and take your ignorant arse back to Reddit
Posted by neworleansnotsouthla
Mid-City
Member since Dec 2023
713 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:00 pm to
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log out and take your ignorant arse back to Reddit
cope harder
Posted by neworleansnotsouthla
Mid-City
Member since Dec 2023
713 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:02 pm to
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Don't foeget the smell. Black bums smell worse than any other bum for some reason. It's like they are proud of it. I can imagine his scent turned people to rage.
Youve never smelled a white bum before after it rains lol smells like a dog fest lol
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10675 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:03 pm to
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they just need to prove that it was not self-defense

I am not even sure non-deadly force was justified, but deadly force was not justified.

quote:

Sec. 9.32. DEADLY FORCE IN DEFENSE OF PERSON.
(a) A person is justified in using deadly force against another:
1) if the actor would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.31; and
(2) when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A) to protect the actor against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful deadly force; or
(B) to prevent the other's imminent commission of aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.

(b) The actor's belief under Subsection (a)(2) that the deadly force was immediately necessary as described by that subdivision is presumed to be reasonable if the actor:
(1) knew or had reason to believe that the person against whom the deadly force was used:
(A) unlawfully and with force entered, or was attempting to enter unlawfully and with force, the actor's occupied habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment;
(B) unlawfully and with force removed, or was attempting to remove unlawfully and with force, the actor from the actor's habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment; or
(C) was committing or attempting to commit an offense described by Subsection (a)(2)(B);
(2) did not provoke the person against whom the force was used; and

(3) was not otherwise engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic at the time the force was used.
(c) A person who has a right to be present at the location where the deadly force is used, who has not provoked the person against whom the deadly force is used, and who is not engaged in criminal activity at the time the deadly force is used is not required to retreat before using deadly force as described by this section.
(d) For purposes of Subsection (a)(2), in determining whether an actor described by Subsection (c) reasonably believed that the use of deadly force was necessary, a finder of fact may not consider whether the actor failed to retreat.


Justification for using force but not deadly force (also is required to be met as an element of justification for using deadly force in 9.32 above)
quote:

Sec. 9.31. SELF-DEFENSE.
(a) Except as provided in Subsection (b), a person is justified in using force against another when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect the actor against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful force. The actor's belief that the force was immediately necessary as described by this subsection is presumed to be reasonable if the actor:
(1) knew or had reason to believe that the person against whom the force was used:
(A) unlawfully and with force entered, or was attempting to enter unlawfully and with force, the actor's occupied habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment;
(B) unlawfully and with force removed, or was attempting to remove unlawfully and with force, the actor from the actor's habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment; or
(C) was committing or attempting to commit aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery;
(2) did not provoke the person against whom the force was used; and
(3) was not otherwise engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic at the time the force was used.
(b) The use of force against another is not justified:
(1) in response to verbal provocation alone;

(2) to resist an arrest or search that the actor knows is being made by a peace officer, or by a person acting in a peace officer's presence and at his direction, even though the arrest or search is unlawful, unless the resistance is justified under Subsection (c);
(3) if the actor consented to the exact force used or attempted by the other;
(4) if the actor provoked the other's use or attempted use of unlawful force, unless:
(A) the actor abandons the encounter, or clearly communicates to the other his intent to do so reasonably believing he cannot safely abandon the encounter; and
(B) the other nevertheless continues or attempts to use unlawful force against the actor; or
(5) if the actor sought an explanation from or discussion with the other person concerning the actor's differences with the other person while the actor was:
(A) carrying a weapon in violation of Section 46.02; or
(B) possessing or transporting a weapon in violation of Section 46.05.
(c) The use of force to resist an arrest or search is justified:
(1) if, before the actor offers any resistance, the peace officer (or person acting at his direction) uses or attempts to use greater force than necessary to make the arrest or search; and
(2) when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect himself against the peace officer's (or other person's) use or attempted use of greater force than necessary.
(d) The use of deadly force is not justified under this subchapter except as provided in Sections 9.32, 9.33, and 9.34.
(e) A person who has a right to be present at the location where the force is used, who has not provoked the person against whom the force is used, and who is not engaged in criminal activity at the time the force is used is not required to retreat before using force as described by this section.
(f) For purposes of Subsection (a), in determining whether an actor described by Subsection (e) reasonably believed that the use of force was necessary, a finder of fact may not consider whether the actor failed to retreat.

Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
7407 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:05 pm to
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If the jury is from Frisco proper, that percentage drops down closer to 8%.

Would have to figure out the difference if it is from one of the two counties the city straddles or if it is from a multi county jurisdiction.


Collin County is the jury pool.

Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71339 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:06 pm to
I've smelled both. Blacks stink to low hell.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
33584 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:06 pm to
Some media outlets are continuing to use the word allegedly, when that motherfricker stabbed that kid in front of like 100 people
Posted by AUIH1
Logan Martin Lake, Talladega, AL
Member since Oct 2012
457 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:11 pm to
Yep. Most people do not know or understand the definition of the word racism and racist. And yes, minorities (looking at you home boys and queens) can absolutely be racist.
Posted by DustyDinkleman
Here
Member since Feb 2012
20076 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:12 pm to
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Some media outlets are continuing to use the word allegedly,


He’s not really guilty until they prove it. So they’re not wrong using “allegedly”
Posted by neworleansnotsouthla
Mid-City
Member since Dec 2023
713 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:17 pm to
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I've smelled both. Blacks stink to low hell.
Not guilty
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
6850 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:48 pm to



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Some media outlets are continuing to use the word allegedly, when that motherfricker stabbed that kid in front of like 100 people



quote:

He’s not really guilty until they prove it. So they’re not wrong using “allegedly”


He didn't “allegedly” stab him...Anthony did it and admitted to it on police body cam.
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 6:49 pm
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10675 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 7:08 pm to
quote:

How so, one got killed for words and was choked out from behind, the other tried bullying someone and was killed defense style. You're too emotional.


One went psycho and legitimately made threats that were videoed against multiple people in closed off space of a running train car which restricted people from easily getting away from him or around him and then died after being restrained in a choke hold that was not meant to kill due to contributing health factors and after being released.

The white kid was not bullying. It’s is not bullying when blacks are told something they don’t agree with or don’t understand. It is also not racist when this occurs.

The black thug brought a knife to school property and to a school track event against multiple rules and wasn’t supposed to be in the area set aside for the victim’s school. He brought knife with him to start some typical BR thug behavior. During the disagreement over being in another school’s area or even any alleged contact between the them just moments before the stabbing the black thug was never in any danger being out in the open at a school event with coaches, officials, parents, and competitors from multiple different high schools including the thug’s and damn sure was never in danger of having deadly force used against him under those circumstances.

Zero legal justification for using what was 100% deadly force and gave the victim zero chance to survive. Pushing and shoving between the two would have been broken up pretty quickly and still the fault of the black thug, but instead your thug felt disrespected, asked the victim to put his hands on him to see what happens knowing he had his knife ready to murder the victim, and then intentionally murdered the victim right in front of his identical twin brother by intentionally stabbing him in the heart.

The thug’s only chance is if racist idiots like yourself get on the jury.

This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 7:28 pm
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74990 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 7:51 pm to
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He’s not really guilty until they prove it. So they’re not wrong using “allegedly”


there should be no use of “allegedly” in this case. None. Zero.

There were a dozen witnesses. He admitted to it when he was arrested on the scene. There are surveillance videos of the altercation. What exactly is in doubt here?

But because we live in a effeminate, hyper-politicized society, even a case as cut and dry as this one, has to be dragged out into a public spectacle and more often than not, it only deepens the division within the community and the country as a whole.

Save the taxpayers some money and give the family justice. He’s guilty.
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 8:07 pm
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10892 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 7:56 pm to
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How so, one got killed for words and was choked out from behind, the other tried bullying someone and was killed defense style. You're too emotional.


The guy Daniel Penny killed deserved it because he was a threat to everyone in that car.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115685 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:00 pm to
quote:

He’s not really guilty until they prove it. So they’re not wrong using “allegedly”


No.

He absolutely killed him. There is no "allegedly."

The sole issue is whether there is a defense of justification.

That's it.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122245 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 9:05 pm to
I followed the Karen Read trial last year that started about this time last year.. I need to get caught up on this one so see how this one turns out.

This will be my new thing between college baseball and football season. Follow a trial.
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