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re: Train Derailment in Pecos, TX

Posted on 12/20/24 at 12:34 am to
Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 12:34 am to
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due to all of train / truck collisions in Texas


When I worked for an oil company as an engineer, I'd fly Houston to Midland and drive from Midland to Loving County. Everyday I'd see an 18-wheeler on fire or a set of 4, 18-wheelers turned over on the side of the road on Interstate 20. The Field Superintendent riding with me said that this happens all the time with all the oilfield traffic out there with all of the oilfield equipment and products that take I-20 every day between Midland/Odessa and the Delaware Basin.

It's weird to see this desolate area with 0 houses, buildings, gas stations or anything around in site have miles of traffic.
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 12:36 am
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
6038 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 2:11 am to
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Kind of surprised the engineer and conductor were killed


Look at the pics of the lead motor. Almost unrecognizeable. Whatever happened after impact ripped it apart.
Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
84792 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 2:40 am to
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Look at the pics of the lead motor. Almost unrecognizeable. Whatever happened after impact ripped it apart.
How about you post them

Damn, that was a bad one. RIP to the crew who are now no long with us
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
6038 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 3:57 am to
Directly in front of the building is what's left of the lead unit. The roof of the cab was sheared off. I've been railroading for 23 years & I can't remember seeing one in that bad a shape.

Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30536 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 5:26 am to
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Same incident could have happened out in the country, They too fast there too?


Repercussions could be vastly different depending on the payload.

Not the same incident if the train had happen to have been towing 6 tank cars of anhydrous ammonia in-town vs "out in the country".

Response and deaths could be vastly different depending on location.

So yeah, added safety isn't a stupid idea.
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 7:40 am
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 5:31 am to
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Those over size haulers are usually very experienced and know their sh##. Also he had an escort, I can't imagine what would cause him to make such a bad decision. I drove for 44 years and never got hung up on a RR crossing.

Is there a quick way to get unstuck? Or notify the RR when you do get stuck?

quote:

oldtrucker

Name checks out.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
10749 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 6:19 am to
I read that the trailer was stuck for an hour on those tracks. If this is true.WTF??? That’s plenty of time to call the emergency number on that blue sign.
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
6038 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 7:24 am to
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Or notify the RR when you do get stuck?


There's a sign on every public crossing that gives an emergency phone number to call that goes to the directly to thedispatcher who'll stop movements in the area. They'll call police & send them to help you get unstuck. Happens all the time.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30536 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 7:42 am to
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There's a sign on every public crossing that gives an emergency phone number to call that goes to the directly to thedispatcher who'll stop movements in the area. They'll call police & send them to help you get unstuck. Happens all the time.


This is kinda what I don't get.

Who was driving the truck? I would previously assume the contractor and driver hired to do an any oversized load should be competent enough to keep this accident from happening. Especially if they had plenty of time.

Someone said the truck sat there for an hour possibly. Did this driver just fall of the turnip truck and start driving with no idea on how to handle emergencies or contingencies??

Two deaths, three injuries, lots of damage, destroyed freight, mitigation, and clean up. Somebody should be in real trouble over this senseless event.
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 7:47 am
Posted by bigberg2000
houston, from chalmette
Member since Sep 2005
70578 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 7:45 am to
My brother was in line to go through and this happened in front of him. Sent me a video yesterday.
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
90635 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 7:47 am to
Denzel couldn't save that one.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30536 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 7:47 am to
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My brother was in line to go through and this happened in front of him. Sent me a video yesterday.


Link if you can. I imagine that was surreal to witness. Something you don't see everyday in real life.
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 7:47 am
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
86581 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:11 am to
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My brother was in line to go through and this happened in front of him. Sent me a video yesterday.
is the "stuck for 1-hr" thing true
Posted by Cleary Rebels
Member since Oct 2024
2899 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:14 am to
What idiot would sit with a load that long/big on a train track? Wow.
Posted by HeadSlash
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:30 am to
That escort crew screwed the pooch
Posted by Horsemeat
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:33 am to
I've heard several stories where people call the number on the blue sign and get sent to voicemails or put on hold for half an hour. Something about this just doesn't add up, there's no way that someone didn't call the railroad, the cops, anybody to let the railroad know. Every local police department has the emergency phone numbers to the railroad as well. There's no way they were sitting on the tracks for almost an hour and nobody lifted a finger to let the railroad know. No way. Even the people in town would have been pissed about a truck cutting off the flow of traffic that long and had called the cops.
Itll be interesting to find out how much of a megafrickup in communication this actually was if the stories are true that the truck was stuck for 45-60 mins, but maybe I'm just putting too much faith in people.
Posted by Cleary Rebels
Member since Oct 2024
2899 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:48 am to
DEI
Posted by offshoreangler
713, Texas
Member since Jun 2008
22538 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:48 am to
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I've been to a Walmart in Pecos, TX. I was a new PETE spending 1 week a month in the fields of Loving Country. I showed up in regular clothes to ride around with operators to learn. One of the foreman told me I couldn't do it in regular clothes and needed FRs. I did it but was like FRs are understandably needed during drilling, but all I was doing was looking at producing wells and no drill sites. Had to drive like 45 minutes to Pecos walmart to get FRs.

Most field operators are a different bunch. One was like a 65 year old man that was head in operations. He had to be on clock 24/7 for his week. He would always get alerts at 3 AM that a compressor went down and he had to go check on it. He would brag to me about how he made more money than me. They have a disdain for petroleum engineers in the office.

Another one that was 350 lbs said he and his wife were the same weight. He said his wife was 400 lbs at one time and got a liposuction and gained the weight back in 1 year . One other operator said they never once saw 350 lb guy brush his teeth in years of being out there. He wore a Dallas Cowboys hard hat. He also had a story that before he left for this hitch, that his wife threw a brick threw his front wind shield. hahaha. They drank beer in a completions trailor during coiled tubing drill outs. If CEO of company saw that they'd be fired.

They always frick with the new guys or very young engineers. They'd never frick with the senior pet engrs. We had a pretty hot gate guard at one of our completions sites. One of the operators told me I should ask for her number so I did. She gave it but didn't respond. I feel in hindsight she probably felt obligated because in a way I employed her. You can't trust any of those operators, he told my boss the VP of Ops. He was a cool dude and didn't care. He dipped during work in the office, but said if HR figured out I'd get in trouble.



Hey worm...shut the frick up.
Posted by TxWadingFool
Middle Coast
Member since Sep 2014
5453 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:50 am to
I was told neither were in the unit when found, the lead unit came apart after impact. It took several minutes to find the bodies, one had already passed, the second was barely alive but passed in the ambulance on the way to the hospital.

If you have FB you can go to Jesus Manuel Quinones profile and see several videos of him running around the site right after the wreck. I don't know the guy, I just saw the videos on a RR page I'm on, BTW videos are NSFW due to language, so don't have the volume cranked up in the office.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:58 am to
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