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re: TOPS Only Requires an ACT of 20
Posted on 1/26/16 at 2:20 pm to 1MileTiger
Posted on 1/26/16 at 2:20 pm to 1MileTiger
i still have no idea what i posted that warranted these responses 
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 2:21 pm to Deactived
pretty sure he is responding to me, just replying to the latest post
Posted on 1/26/16 at 2:21 pm to Deactived
They started having ACT prep courses at MHS around '01 IIRC. Pretty standard for kids to take them now
Posted on 1/26/16 at 2:22 pm to OneMoreTime
a 33 and you went to lsu? what degree?
Posted on 1/26/16 at 2:22 pm to Salmon
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Salmon
If I remember correctly, the tuition "value" was spread evenly between all public schools. What I mean is LSU probably had the highest cost of attendance, but you got the same amount if you went to USL. My dad gave me a hard time because I wanted to leave Lafayette where USL would have given me free tuition, books, room and board (though living at home was an option to). I chose LSU for the national recognition as I never intended on staying in Louisiana to begin with. So if $25,000 covered LSU tuition (hypothetically), the $18000 tuition at USL would allow another $7,000 to go towards room and board if I remember correctly.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 2:22 pm to Deactived
Yep. Mechanical engineering. I'm very happy with my choice.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 2:22 pm to Hammertime
yeah I never took any type of ACT prep course or anything like that
now these kids basically study just for the test and take practice tests and whatnot for years prior
now these kids basically study just for the test and take practice tests and whatnot for years prior
Posted on 1/26/16 at 2:23 pm to OneMoreTime
not saying you shouldnt be. just seems like there could have been better opportunities with a 33 and wanting an engineering degree
Posted on 1/26/16 at 2:23 pm to Salmon
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Jones
Not sure I'm referring to anything you've said. Just stating that going to LSU with a 32 shouldn't be that big of a shock. Going to out-of-state school with partial scholarships is not a wise financial decision when LSU is practically free.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 2:25 pm to Salmon
quote:Unless you went to Rummel
now these kids basically study just for the test and take practice tests and whatnot for years prior
Posted on 1/26/16 at 2:26 pm to Salmon
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yeah I never took any type of ACT prep course or anything like that
I just did a workbook that I checked out from the library
Posted on 1/26/16 at 2:26 pm to 1MileTiger
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. Just stating that going to LSU with a 32 shouldn't be that big of a shock.
From the looks of it though, a 32 isnt as impressive as it once was.
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Going to out-of-state school with partial scholarships is not a wise financial decision when LSU is practically free.
I think this depends on a number of things but I definitely see your point
Posted on 1/26/16 at 2:29 pm to Deactived
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not saying you shouldnt be. just seems like there could have been better opportunities with a 33 and wanting an engineering degree
That's where the ACT fails. I did the exact same thing. 33 and a ME. I'm not sure what other field I would have gone in besides engineering, because it's what I'm good at.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 2:29 pm to Deactived
Let's just say, sitting at 26 with 0 student debt and an IT management career living in Colorado, I'm happy with my decision. I see so many friends still paying off thousands of dollars in student debt for an equivalent education from state schools across the country. The TOPS program is brilliant, but so many people piss it away. A college degree doesn't bring a ton to the table in today's age, but it certainly has paid off very well for me.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 2:30 pm to 1MileTiger
A 31-33 doesn't get you a whole lot of scholarship money at the Vanderbilt/UVA/Duke caliber of schools unless you have a fantastic background beyond academics. I didn't feel upgrading to the UGA/UF/A&M sort of school was worth leaving LA for, although I would probably disagree with that now since I'd like to work outside of LA.
This post was edited on 1/26/16 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 1/26/16 at 2:30 pm to lsufan251875
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I'm not sure what other field I would have gone in besides engineering, because it's what I'm good at.
not talking about another field. i meant another college
Posted on 1/26/16 at 2:30 pm to Deactived
quote:I'm sure there were, and I somewhat regret not applying to more prestigious schools just to see if I would've gotten any scholarships, but I doubt I would've went anywhere else.
just seems like there could have been better opportunities with a 33 and wanting an engineering degree
Posted on 1/26/16 at 2:38 pm to OneMoreTime
The truth is, if you aren't black, Asian or Latino, you aren't getting substantial scholarships to prestigious schools. BIL had a 34 ACT and came from upper-middle class Colorado, they looked at the income of his step-father who wasn't providing any financial assistance and laughed.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 2:40 pm to Epic Cajun
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No, the original intent was to slow the brain drain, and give state residents an incentive to attend college in Louisiana and hopefully stay here.
Correct.
And in this regard it has helped a little. They need to revamp the system entirely though.
Are we really losing our greatest minds that scored 20 on their ACT? Is that contributing to the brain drain? Or is it the kids getting 30+ and 4.0’s going to better schools? I think we should focus on those people more IMO.
Having tiered schools might be best. If you get 20-24 you earn TOPS to community college. Above 24, you earn TOPS to a bigger university.
Something like that.
I am also ok with a sliding scale of benefits based on scores, grades, and family income level, but the income level should have far and away the lowest effect on benefits. I’m talking the difference in a couple hundred for books or something. If a kid is already getting tuition paid, has an upper class family, then maybe we should use common sense and not pay for their books so that money can be used for low-income kids with insane scores/GPA.
ETA:
Also maybe look at making people pay it back in someway if they fail out.
This post was edited on 1/26/16 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 1/26/16 at 2:45 pm to Poncho
Act is dumb AF, I out performed tons of people with better scores than me. That being said I was also an honors student and I did score higher than a f'ing 20
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