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re: Todd Graves worth $7.6 Billion - According to Bloomberg

Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
10716 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:00 pm to
The richer you get the greedier you think. Give back to the customer more food or a lower price ? Nah. Gotta get to 10 billion now.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20509 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:01 pm to
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Crazy, the meals aren't even that good.


I love when people say that yet they sell the shite out of them. I’m not arguing one way or another I’ve only had it once many years ago. But they are doing something right.

With it being a private company they also own all the real estate so there’s that equity to add to the evaluation.
Posted by Tangineck
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2017
1832 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:02 pm to
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am always fascinated with people that keep working when they could sell out for 1 billion or more (even less).


People capable of building a chicken shack into a multi-billion dollar empire are compelled by something most of us don't understand.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13639 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:03 pm to
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Crazy, the meals aren't even that good.


I love when people say that yet they sell the shite out of them. I’m not arguing one way or another I’ve only had it once many years ago. But they are doing something right.

With it being a private company they also own all the real estate so there’s that equity to add to the evaluation.



Well for some Louisiana folks it's relative. We remember the first location at LSU with HUGE, fresh chicken fingers and 1 more tender than you get now in the box combo. The quality and quantity has gone down as he scaled, dramatically.

It's still pretty good to most, but for us, it's very poor relative to the OG. I'll still eat it with my kids though.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13639 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:04 pm to
Also I hope he keeps getting richer because he's a huge LSU booster

He can be our chicken finger T. Boone Pickens or Phil Knight
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:04 pm to
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I bet he'd get 2-3b for Canes as it is today. At most.


That’s on the high end.

You have to take into consideration that it probably cost $2mm to build each store and he doesn’t necessarily own each piece of real estate that he builds on. So you can add another $1mm into each store.

So if he does own the real estate he paid premium $$$ to purchase and develop it.

If he’s leasing it he’s paying top dollar, like $5k-$10k a month.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:06 pm to
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With it being a private company they also own all the real estate so there’s that equity to add to the evaluation.


No they don’t
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13639 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

With it being a private company they also own all the real estate


Say what?
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51914 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:08 pm to
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Graves, 51, maintains an ownership interest of almost 90% in the closely held business


I’m now reminded of the guy who adamantly argued that Canes was now run by Chinese a few weeks back because he sold Panda Express’s holding company exclusive rights to open Cane’s franchisees in Alaska and Hawaii.

I’m sure gymnastics will follow
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 4:13 pm
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51914 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

With it being a private company they also own all the real estate so there’s that equity to add to the evaluation.


So if you are publically traded, you have to lease?
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
3361 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:10 pm to
Can he get us some better recruits now
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25811 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:11 pm to
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People capable of building a chicken shack into a multi-billion dollar empire are compelled by something most of us don't understand.


I understand that and it is exactly what I am fascinated by. I know it shifts from money to power for many of them but I just can't wrap my mind around the concept of needing more than a billion dollars.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:11 pm to
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With it being a private company they also own all the real estate so there’s that equity to add to the evaluation.


That’s gotta be one of the dumbest statements I’ve ever read on this site

That’s including some of my own post
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51914 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:20 pm to
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In addition, usually (very rough measure) that a company's market cap to last 12 months revenue ratio is 1 to 1


Wut? I typically see 3-5 years used in valuations of non traded companies.


Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34811 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:20 pm to
Great maybe now he can lower the prices a bit. I spent $35 on two Caniac’s a couple weeks ago. Was flabbergasted when they said the prices
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99078 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:51 pm to
There's no fricking way
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76502 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:53 pm to
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Crazy, the meals aren't even that good.


It was nectar of the gods after drinking all night circa 1998. Not very appealing nowadays plus way more money
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85109 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:56 pm to
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No one/business/entity would pay 8 billion dollars for Raising Canes. These things are all hypothetical written by valuation nerds. The free market would value that much less IMO.


Eh, maybe.

Cava is a growing restaurant business like Canes. ~$4B market cap on $670mm in revenues and no profits of which to speak.
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
1962 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:58 pm to
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I am always fascinated with people that keep working when they could sell out for 1 billion or more (even less). Even with very basic conservative money management the passive income would top $50 million a year. It would be a job just to spend a billion dollars in a lifetime and I have pretty expensive tastes (that I can not indulge 'cause I am po). You would have to buy shite just to buy shite.


Because people who build that much wealth through work have an internal drive that they can't sit idle and do nothing but spend money.
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
2553 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 5:07 pm to
Do not know if the story is true but the legend is .. he presented his business model of canes to his prof in some LSU business class.. Prof said that you needed to diversify your product and could not build a business one one product… Gave him a C on his project..

Yeah the prof probably had to walk by the original canes location every day and shake his head.. ( fyi cane number one is one block off campus next to the apartment Todd lived in when in college)

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