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Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:19 am to Tasseo
Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:43 am to S
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Amerigo Vespucci.
Posted on 10/12/24 at 10:31 am to JasonDBlaha
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OP never explicitly said Leif Erikson.
But OP did explicitly say that Columbus wasn't the first European to set foot in North America.
Posted on 10/12/24 at 10:45 am to RollTide1987
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But more importantly, as Neil deGrasse Tyson stated several years ago on the Joe Rogan Experience, this discovery reunited all of humanity for the first time in tens of thousands of years.
I wonder what he would say about it in the year of our Lord 2024
Posted on 10/12/24 at 11:00 am to RollTide1987
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But OP did explicitly say that Columbus wasn't the first European to set foot in North America
Well say his goddamn name next time!
This post was edited on 10/12/24 at 11:15 am
Posted on 10/12/24 at 11:06 am to JasonDBlaha
Why? His name doesn't matter. It's simply trivia. While Erickson may have been the first European to set foot on the North American continent, what did that do for world history or European history for that matter? Absolutely nothing.
Whenever someone brings up Leif Erickson in the context of Christopher Columbus, this is what I picture them looking like:
Whenever someone brings up Leif Erickson in the context of Christopher Columbus, this is what I picture them looking like:
Posted on 10/12/24 at 11:13 am to RollTide1987
Since Columbus was looking to establish more territory for the Kingdom of Spain, yeah I guess he’s more important. But I think that what Erikson did was more impressive considering he was part of a savage tribe and not sponsored by a country.
Posted on 10/12/24 at 11:20 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 10/12/24 at 11:21 am to DavidThibeaux
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Great grammar
It’s grammer fool
Posted on 10/12/24 at 12:25 pm to molsusports
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Overly fond of Barbara Streisand
;)
Posted on 10/12/24 at 12:42 pm to kciDAtaE
quote:Maybe because he came up with the idea of exploring the new world?
And what did he do about it?
Posted on 10/12/24 at 1:42 pm to RollTide1987
Here’s what I think: may or not be right . It’s just what I picked up over the years: books, podcast, credible on line sources, school. etc.
1st . Clovis type people : follow the mammoths and giant sloths, tigers and lions over the barring straight to eventually settle the American continents. 14,000+ years ago
2. Boat settlement culture from South Pacific/ or related to Clovis people came by boat to settle South America
3. Lief Erickson and company. Present day Canada .
4. African contact either by trade or by permanent migration . Makes more sense because of ocean currents that Mali or Phoenician sailers would find America before Europeans. Joe Rohan has an episode about it.
5. Columbus . He set off a fire storm of genocide, good lust, disease, theft, religious conversion , and most importantly venture capitalist from Europe to all but whip out thousands of years of civilizations in development of mathematics, science , philosophy like the Incas, Olmecs, Aztecs. Etc
I don’t think the Americas would have be conquered as quickly the the chain of dominos that feel in the wake of Columbus’s voyage , had it not been for the smallpox disease that Europeans brought over the Americans . That was the OG pandemic and it started with with Columbus into the 21st. Thank you for bringing the 40 hour work week to the Americans Columbus.
1st . Clovis type people : follow the mammoths and giant sloths, tigers and lions over the barring straight to eventually settle the American continents. 14,000+ years ago
2. Boat settlement culture from South Pacific/ or related to Clovis people came by boat to settle South America
3. Lief Erickson and company. Present day Canada .
4. African contact either by trade or by permanent migration . Makes more sense because of ocean currents that Mali or Phoenician sailers would find America before Europeans. Joe Rohan has an episode about it.
5. Columbus . He set off a fire storm of genocide, good lust, disease, theft, religious conversion , and most importantly venture capitalist from Europe to all but whip out thousands of years of civilizations in development of mathematics, science , philosophy like the Incas, Olmecs, Aztecs. Etc
I don’t think the Americas would have be conquered as quickly the the chain of dominos that feel in the wake of Columbus’s voyage , had it not been for the smallpox disease that Europeans brought over the Americans . That was the OG pandemic and it started with with Columbus into the 21st. Thank you for bringing the 40 hour work week to the Americans Columbus.
Posted on 10/12/24 at 2:07 pm to Bison
All I know is, after Muhammad Ali returned from a boxing match in Zaire, he told the US press, “Thank God my people were kidnapped and hauled over here.”
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