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re: Three LSU Phi Mu's die in helicopter crash with billionaire Chris Cline

Posted on 7/8/19 at 2:49 pm to
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 2:49 pm to
No
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 2:50 pm to


he took off going up (north) and then wanted to go to left to Florida (port) and then he went down into the water (crashed)
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 2:57 pm to
I still don't understand calling for a helicopter to fly back to FL in the middle of the night if there was a medical emergency that couldn't wait. That would seem to take quite a few hours considering waiting on the copter arrival, loading everyone on board and then taking the flight. Wouldn't it have been more prudent to call medics or some other emergency outfit which services that area to come help?

I have to assume whoever had the medical emergency, allegedly the daughter, was not in a life or death situation.

The whole scenario is strange. I know some have mentioned an OD, but my goodness, that could be life threatening. Time would be pretty darn important.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 3:01 pm to
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I still don't understand calling for a helicopter to fly back to FL in the middle of the night if there was a medical emergency that couldn't wait.


Several sources are saying Clines daughter had acute alcohol poisoning.
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 3:07 pm to
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Several sources are saying Clines daughter had acute alcohol poisoning.


I think this is the most likely scenario given the details. Something she needs medical attention for soon but not a true emergency where a helicopter with trained medical professional was needed. It also makes more sense that is why the other girls joined them. Because dad was pissed.

Some situation that was somewhere in between not waiting until the morning and calling a medical flight.

I also don't know the situation, they were not in the USA. They may have had limited options to get them to a hospital in the USA immediately? It may be possible the American options wouldn't go to the bahamas and the Bahama options wouldn't fly her to the USA?

Something like a drug OD the last thing I'd want is two other 20 year olds on the helicopter for 60 minutes freaking out about their friend.
This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 3:08 pm
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 3:13 pm to
I wonder if she was unconscious? She could have been drinking out in the hot sun all day and passed out and they couldn't get her to wake up....if seen it happen plenty of times to friends while in college
Posted by Priapus
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 3:17 pm to
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still don't understand calling for a helicopter to fly back to FL in the middle of the night if there was a medical emergency that couldn't wait. That would seem to take quite a few hours considering waiting on the copter arrival, loading everyone on board and then taking the flight. Wouldn't it have been more prudent to call medics or some other emergency outfit which services that area to come help?


It was his helicopter and it was with him the entire time. Google Earth his island and you will see a ton of crew/staff quarters on the south side while his mansion sits on the north. What you don't see is a very well defined helicopter landing pad, though there are plenty of areas large enough and that pic could have been taken many months ago.

Medical help out there, at night, would be shakier than a coyote trying to shite a persimmon seed.
This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 3:20 pm
Posted by mikelbr
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 3:18 pm to
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I wonder if she was unconscious? She could have been drinking out in the hot sun all day and passed out and they couldn't get her to wake up....if seen it happen plenty of times to friends while in college




Yep. We've all been there.
Tailgates, Mardi Gras, Spring Break, Summmer Pool Parties etc.
this scenario makes more sense than a drug OD or appendicitis.

I wonder, being isolated like they were, if they had a crew member or someone try to administer IV fluids before they decided to get her to an ER.
This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 3:19 pm
Posted by mikelbr
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 3:21 pm to
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It was his helicopter and it was with him the entire time. Google Earth his island


Give us a pin.

And I thought the Helicopter flew from North Palm Beach County Airport and picked them up. It wasn't there at the time.
This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 3:22 pm
Posted by Priapus
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 3:22 pm to
It is sort of perplexing that having that much wealth, one doesn't travel with a medical staff (or have one sent in advance) at all times that you plan to be off the grid.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 3:24 pm to
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I wonder, being isolated like they were, if they had a crew member or someone try to administer IV fluids before they decided to get her to an ER.



I wonder if she got violently ill and started to vomit in the helo...I guess there are many many unanswered questions
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 3:25 pm to
There’s got to be more to the story. Medical facilities aren’t that bad where they were. Probably a combination of things that led up to the old man saying “frick it, we’re going home, now!”
Posted by Priapus
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 3:28 pm to
27.219459, -78.313894

You could be right about the calling for the chopper thing, but that makes zero sense.
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 3:33 pm to
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There’s got to be more to the story. Medical facilities aren’t that bad where they were. Probably a combination of things that led up to the old man saying “frick it, we’re going home, now!”


This and convenience I think. Why go somewhere in the Bahamas when he can have his daughter at a US hospital and he can sleep in his bed at his home in Jupiter?

Also it could be simply timing. For all we know, he may have called a medical chopper and none been available at the moment. So his personal was faster.
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 3:40 pm to
Probably one of the factors in the decision. Jupiter Medical Center, if that was the destination, was less than 60 air miles from where they were.
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 3:45 pm to
From those photos posted today it looks like the landing gear was still down. If that's the case whatever happened must have taken place right at takeoff.

Posted by mikelbr
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 3:47 pm to
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27.219459, -78.313894

You could be right about the calling for the chopper thing, but that makes zero sense.



Okay yea I thought that was it. The yacht is in the pic.

I did some stalking and I found a Geoff Painter in Palm Beach who matched age of the pilot and lives about 13 miles from that airport and has a prior address at the airport For Cloud 9 Helicopters LLC. So, it's him. And If he was at home that night, it's a ~20 min drive according to the GMaps.


The alcohol thing sounds most plausible in that it's urgent but not like a cardiac arrest incident. Had time to gather up the group and wait for helicopter. Still so tragic and sad, particularly when young lives are lost.


This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 3:57 pm
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 3:59 pm to
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It was his helicopter and it was with him the entire time.


Perhaps I'm confused because the witness said he saw the helicopter arrive and land and then take off 30 minutes later. I assumed the copter came from somewhere else even though it was his.
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 4:04 pm to
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It was his helicopter and it was with him the entire time.


Eyewitness statement says it flew in a half hour before the crash. There is a lot of conflicting info here, though, admittedly.
Posted by baldona
Florida
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 4:09 pm to
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It is sort of perplexing that having that much wealth, one doesn't travel with a medical staff (or have one sent in advance) at all times that you plan to be off the grid.


He wasn't really off the grid though. I mean with a helicopter he owns he is all of 2 hours away from miami, 60 minute flights each direction.

Most private pilots aren't on call 24 hours a day, but I wouldn't doubt that whenever Cline was at his Bahamas place his pilot was basically on call or at least he had a helicopter on call. Billionaires are a little different, but most guys with private jets/ pilots will often share them with others if they have maintenance or pilot issues on their own.

ETA: Its pretty normal for private planes to return to their home base after dropping off the owner unless its a long way away. Its easier and cheaper to have the plane/ helicopter and pilot return to its home then to keep all the crap there to secure, refuel, etc. on site on the island. Plus you have to house the pilot/ crew. Etc.
This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 4:14 pm
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