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Posted on 8/22/22 at 8:59 am to eatpie
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Show us where ALL of any specific group are inherently good.
That's why you can't give them free reign to beat the hell out of people or even shoot them like the other poster said. They are given a power over people so they're held to a standard to not take advantage of it. I get it's not an easy job and it is violent, but they need to know when to stop when they have a situation under control.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:01 am to Smoke7024
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when they have a situation under control.
Agree. But random people watching a few second video clip aren't determining that.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:03 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I agree that these videos never tell the whole story, but with three officers on 1 man, what could he have been doing that would justify bashing his head into the pavement.
But random people watching a few second video clip aren't determining that.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:04 am to RogerTheShrubber
You’re wrong. There is a subjective component but overall it’s an objective reasonableness standard
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:05 am to pistolpete23
Ole boy just won the lottery
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:06 am to Proximo
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You’re wrong. There is a subjective component
Thanks for the contradiction.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:08 am to Displaced
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but with three officers on 1 man, what could he have been doing that would justify bashing his head into the pavement.
That seemed excessive. I agree.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:20 am to Displaced
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So you agree that the current numbers are extremely too high.
What are the current numbers?
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already gave you my number. My number of acceptable instances like this is 0.
You may get to zero but you won’t have an effective, functioning police department and crime will be through the roof
This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 9:22 am
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:20 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:37 am to WaWaWeeWa
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You may get to zero but you won’t have an effective, functioning police department and crime will be through the roof
Why? Are police not able to enforce the law without using excessive force or breaking the law in some other way? (Unlawful detainment, illegal search, lying on police report, etc.)
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:40 am to pistolpete23
OT has covered a number of these articles that tell me the title should have read.
And based on the charges, that actually looks more like self-defense/preservation than resisting arrest. Thankfully we didn't find out, but I wonder how far it would have gone had that one officer not seen the civilian recording.
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Three Arkansas officers suspended and under investigation after video shows alleged use of force
And based on the charges, that actually looks more like self-defense/preservation than resisting arrest. Thankfully we didn't find out, but I wonder how far it would have gone had that one officer not seen the civilian recording.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:45 am to UndercoverBryologist
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The only reason no one will give a frick is if white people just casually dismiss police brutality when it happens to their kids. At least black people don’t put up with it.
Whites don't have the victim mentality blacks do. If my kid commits a crime (allegedly) and resists arrest, I still love him but he needs to pay the price. He'll learn a lesson. Why should whites go rioting and not "put up with it" if we are the ones fricking around?
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:47 am to Displaced
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Why? Are police not able to enforce the law without using excessive force or breaking the law in some other way? (Unlawful detainment, illegal search, lying on police report, etc.)
I just told you there are 10 million fricking arrests a year.
This isn’t a perfect science. You are dealing with real humans with real emotions of fear, adrenaline, etc. fighting for their lives against people who are murders, schizophrenics, and high on drugs.
You have no possible way to reduce the number of events to zero you just think it makes you morally superior to say that’s what you want.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:49 am to ThurlNoonkester
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If my kid commits a crime (allegedly) and resists arrest, I still love him but he needs to pay the price. He'll learn a lesson.
Death sentence, according to the guy earlier in this thread.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:50 am to WaWaWeeWa
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You have no possible way to reduce the number of events to zero
Sure I do.
I want the bad apples weeded out and held accountable for their actions.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:52 am to Displaced
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Sure I do. I want the bad apples weeded out and held accountable for their actions.
They are
The problem is you don’t know they are a bad apple until one of these incidents occurs. My point is you have no way of preventing the incidents in the first place.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:56 am to Smoke7024
quote:talk to the average beat cop or go watch videos from 1A auditors and you’ll see how low the average IQ is when it comes to the laws they try to enforce. And posters here think cops have a right to ground and pound if you don’t completely comply with their dumb shite? :lol;
Exactly, that's why you can't give them free reign to shoot people for resisting arrest.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:00 am to pistolpete23
Seemed pretty excessive. Good thing he wasn't a black guy.
Really makes you wonder how much these cops are thinking. Everyone has a camera/recording device in their pocket these days. Unless you are on some rural dirt road you are probably going to be recorded beating the crap out of some guy.
Really makes you wonder how much these cops are thinking. Everyone has a camera/recording device in their pocket these days. Unless you are on some rural dirt road you are probably going to be recorded beating the crap out of some guy.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:01 am to SuperSaint
That’s not what I’m saying.
I don’t think they have a right to do it but I also don’t think we have a problem in this country.
I think it’s a false narrative facilitated by accessibility bias.
You should have to watch all 10 million arrests a year and then I bet you wouldn’t say we have a problem
I don’t think they have a right to do it but I also don’t think we have a problem in this country.
I think it’s a false narrative facilitated by accessibility bias.
You should have to watch all 10 million arrests a year and then I bet you wouldn’t say we have a problem
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