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Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:19 am to sabes que
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sabes que
What, in your opinion, is the proper way to deal with a multiple time arrested violent criminal who is currently being violent and currently ODing on meth speedball?
This post was edited on 2/18/22 at 8:20 am
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:20 am to sabes que
I heard blacking out your Facebook profile pic solves the problem.
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:21 am to sabes que
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And it conveys that his actions absolutely led to his death but absolutely not intentionally.
You're such a clown. You're assumptions and what you think you know has no bearing on reality. George Floyd would have survived that encounter just fine, and frankly wouldn't have even been in that situation, without Fentanyl. But, his "eating too many drugs" led to his fentanyl overdose.
The problem, is too many compassionate morons think they know how to handle these situations. They don't. YOU DON'T. The knee to the back is a technique used many times throughout the country, countless times. The only time someone dies from it, is if they bleed out from a gunshot wound or ingest a lethal amount of drugs.
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:21 am to sabes que
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the most telling thing is the look on his face when Floyd is put in the ambulance and he realizes that he’s dead. It’s the biggest “oh shite” expression I’ve ever seen. And it conveys that his actions absolutely led to his death but absolutely not intentionally.
Wait
You think the look on chauvins face proves how Floyd’s heart stopped?
Boy that is interesting
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:21 am to kengel2
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And now you know why they dont "lighten" up.
Absolutely, that’s why I understand cops have a perspective also. But mine is to make sure the pt lives. Cops want them to live also but don’t recognize medical emergencies with adrenaline rolling like that.
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Floyd could have just sat in the car, he would have been back on the street in an hour.
I agree, Floyd has himself to blame just as much as anyone else. He makes common sense decisions he’s still alive.
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:24 am to WaWaWeeWa
Are there bad cops out there? Unfortunately, yes.
But when you allow the criminals to become the victims, you weaken law enforcement.
Look no further than New Orleans where criminal activity is running rampant and law enforcement is put in a position where there lives become secondary. It's a hard job, with minimal pay, that not many on this board could do everyday.
Imagine leaving your family everyday not knowing if this is the day you won't see them again.
Imagine trying to apprehend criminals not knowing if they are armed or in what kind of state they are in, under influence of narcotics.
Fact of the matter, is police training teaches those tactics in subduing uncooperative victims. Was it excessive, probably so. At some point he should have loosened restraint and this incident could have been avoided.
But when you allow the criminals to become the victims, you weaken law enforcement.
Look no further than New Orleans where criminal activity is running rampant and law enforcement is put in a position where there lives become secondary. It's a hard job, with minimal pay, that not many on this board could do everyday.
Imagine leaving your family everyday not knowing if this is the day you won't see them again.
Imagine trying to apprehend criminals not knowing if they are armed or in what kind of state they are in, under influence of narcotics.
Fact of the matter, is police training teaches those tactics in subduing uncooperative victims. Was it excessive, probably so. At some point he should have loosened restraint and this incident could have been avoided.
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:26 am to Geekboy
quote:no he didn’t. He did what he was trained to do and Floyd overdosed.
Yes he did.
The racist cops narrative in almost 100% democrat run, majority black cities is just too stupid for words. Obviously, some fools bought it though.
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:27 am to sabes que
What was Floyd’s sentence for holding a gun to a pregnant woman’s belly? That’s what Chauvin should have got.
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:27 am to nicholastiger
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Are there bad cops out there? Unfortunately, yes. But when you allow the criminals to become the victims, you weaken law enforcement. Look no further than New Orleans where criminal activity is running rampant and law enforcement is put in a position where there lives become secondary. It's a hard job, with minimal pay, that not many on this board could do everyday. Imagine leaving your family everyday not knowing if this is the day you won't see them again.
I think white left wingers have made it clear, no good, honest, person should be in law enforcement in this day and age.
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:28 am to kisatchie53
quote:but he was not administered narcan, because he wasn’t overdosing on opiates, his behavior proved as much.
and damn sure after some narcan
This post was edited on 2/18/22 at 8:30 am
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:28 am to nicholastiger
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Imagine trying to apprehend criminals not knowing if they are armed or in what kind of state they are in, under influence of narcotics.
Yup. And not to mention, most of the thugs committing these crimes have no perception of the magnitude of their actions. They'd rather shoot and kill a cop or bystander than go to jail for carjacking because they have no concept that jail for carjacking is a much lighter sentence than murder. Nor do they have any concept of right and wrong. It's the failure of parenting in that community that leads to violent crimes like this.
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At some point he should have loosened restraint and this incident could have been avoided.
He wasn't going to de-ingest all of that fentanyl. Floyd died of an overdose, not of a knee to the back. If he didn't eat a lethal amount of fentanyl, he would have survived that confrontation.
This post was edited on 2/18/22 at 8:31 am
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:29 am to sabes que
I am still surprised Chauvin pled guilty to the federal charges and his allocation admitted he had his knee on Floyd when he was unconscious. I understand one would want to transfer to a federal prison but it still surprised me. Transferring to a federal prison will almost certainly result in more time in.
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:33 am to sabes que
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sabes que
I want you to acknowledge a few facts. If that’s all you get from this thread that’s great.
Floyd overdosed while being arrested a few months prior by eating all his pills right before he was arrested
They found half chewed fentanyl/meth pills in the back of the cop car with Floyd’s saliva on it
Floyd said he couldn’t breathe while he was in the back of the car and asked to be put on the ground
Chauvin’s knee wasn’t on his neck. One knee was on his arm. The other knee was on the upper part of the back.
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:35 am to Tigersonfire
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When the prosecutors Dr said under oath Fentanyl doesn’t cause breathing restrictions.
I did not watch the trial and I am no expert, but if this true then the defense should have been prepared to eviscerate the testimony on cross examination and called their own witness to counter during the defense. Maybe they did, like I said I did not watch.
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:35 am to sabes que
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because he wasn’t overdosing on opiates, his behavior proved as much
He was on fentanyl and meth. The half chewed pills and his blood chemistry show that.
He behaved exactly like someone who was in excited delirium and consumed a handful of pills all at once. They would be all excited one minute and out the next when it all hits them at once and causes a fatal arrhythmia or coronary occlusion.
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:35 am to sabes que
quote:no you didn’t.
I watched the video and the entire trial
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:37 am to WaWaWeeWa
His knee was on his neck some of the time. Other than that, ok I acknowledge. Do you acknowledge that he was clearly not showing signs of someone overdosing on opiates and it’s preposterous to imply he wouldn’t have died without Chauvin’s actions?
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:39 am to sabes que
You're brainwashed, Floyd should have complied and not ingested illicit drugs. frick that piece of shite.
Posted on 2/18/22 at 8:40 am to sabes que
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Do you acknowledge that he was clearly not showing signs of someone overdosing on opiates and it’s preposterous to imply he wouldn’t have died without Chauvin’s actions?
So you're just going to ignore facts? Medical examiner, criminal history, blood toxicology reports, and even George Floyd's own words stating "i ate too many drugs" didn't exist?
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