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re: Thoughts on Abraham Lincoln?
Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:34 pm to Harry Boutte
Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:34 pm to Harry Boutte
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War is hell.
Sherman made it Hell because he was the Devil reincarnate.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:41 pm to EphesianArmor
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Sherman made it Hell because he was the Devil reincarnate.
What does that make Curtis LeMay?
Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:45 pm to Harry Boutte
Being the Devil Incarnate means Curtis LeMay is General Sherman's wing-man.
;-)
;-)
Posted on 4/29/25 at 7:04 pm to Cuz413
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All of the facts lead to a conflict driven by the desire by a group of people to control another group for money and power.
The North got fat and rich on the tariffs that made the South a captive market. Politics melded with greed on that score.
In the South, the tariffs caused a decade long economic depression that travelers noted caused notable decay. The idea of the tariffs was that the South would trade with the North, but that didn't work out since the North preferred wool to cotton and was generally agriculturally self-sufficient. However, it did reduce Southern trade income massively.
To add insult to injury, 5 out of 6 dollars raised by tariffs went to improvements in the North.
Posted on 5/2/25 at 8:01 am to Harry Boutte
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The irony.
You can make a case some of the States seceded over slavery, but do not conflate secession with war. Those are two distinct occurrences.
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That's the problem, you're obsessed with the war. Don't forget, its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation. War is hell.
Then why did Lincoln start one?
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Slavery was an addiction,
So every household in the South had slaves?
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You should try studying the culture of the South, how its government worked, who had the power, what individual rights were protected, which were not. The states were corrupt, tyrannical and not representative.
And it is so much better today since the North burned the South to the ground and what was left standing was overrun by carpetbaggers.
How much freedom were Blacks experiencing in the North? How were factory workers being treated? Railroad workers?
I have never said or implied everyone in the South held hands and were happy 24/7, but stop acting like the Northerners had the good life and treated Blacks as equals. There are accounts of former slaves saying they had it better when they were in slavery than how they were now free with no crops to tend to or skills.
What was Lincoln's plan for the newly freed slaves? Since you keep implying that that was the reason for the war.
This post was edited on 5/2/25 at 9:20 am
Posted on 5/2/25 at 8:07 am to UFFan
Probably would've thought mild boiled crawfish were "way too spicy...: 
Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:27 am to Harry Boutte
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I'll just say that the Japanese AND the Germans were all human beings, and that the goal was the same - to take the fight out of the enemy and deny him the means to carry it out. What Sherman did saved a lot us US Army soldiers' lives - just like when we dropped the Bomb on Hiroshima.
These scenarios are so fundamentally different. Your inability to appreciate the difference between a WW2 Japanese or German homefront and a civil war Confederate homefront, and their tactical importance to the war outcome, pretty much negates anything you have to say on this subject.
You're talking about a war where non-combatants had picnics on the side of the battlefield and watched, vs a war where "non-combatants" begged American soldiers to come into a residence and help their dying baby, then proceeded to blow up themselves, their baby, and the Soldiers that came to help.
Posted on 5/2/25 at 12:01 pm to geauxtigahs87
John Wilkes booth was a great man.
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