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re: Thoughts on Abraham Lincoln?

Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:20 pm to
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:20 pm to
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What was the threat to the US for the southern States leaving? There was no threat of violence or takeover. They simply wanted out of the union.



The Stalinist Politburo faction here -- can they please answer this question?


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What was the threat from villages in rural Georgia that required Sherman burning then to the ground?


Maybe he was engaging in ritual killing. Seriously.

His "secret" society had (and still has) rules.

Note the "Hidden Hand".





Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:28 pm to
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Yet he didn't burn Kentucky to the ground.

Or Pineville, or Vicksburg, or Chattanooga, or Memphis, or Jackson...
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Leaving the survivors destitute and homeless and broke.


I myself have seen in Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Mississippi, hundreds of thousands of women and children fleeing from your armies and desperadoes, hungry and with bleeding feet. In Memphis, Vicksburg, and Mississippi, we fed thousands upon thousands of families of rebel soldiers left in our hands, and whom we could not see starve. Now that war comes home to you, you feel very different. You depreciate its horrors, but did not feel them when you sent car-loads of soldiers and ammunition, and moulded shells and shot, to carry war into Kentucky and Tennessee, to desolate the homes of hundreds of thousands of good people who only asked to live in peace at their old homes, and under the Government of their inheritance.

I would say that the Confederate government left more southerners homeless and broke than any Union general.
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I have endeavored myself with learning more about the history of the war

That's the problem, you're obsessed with the war. Don't forget, its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation. War is hell.

You should try studying the culture of the South, how its government worked, who had the power, what individual rights were protected, which were not. The states were corrupt, tyrannical and not representative. Slavery was an addiction, everything was tainted by it. The moral contortions required to rationalize the commoditization of human beings perverted society. The very culture was rotten at its core.
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All of the facts lead to a conflict driven by the desire by a group of people to control another group for money and power.

The irony.

Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
1847 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:31 pm to


War is hell.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
572 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:34 pm to
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War is hell.


Sherman made it Hell because he was the Devil reincarnate.

Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
1847 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:41 pm to
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Sherman made it Hell because he was the Devil reincarnate.


What does that make Curtis LeMay?
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
572 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:45 pm to
Being the Devil Incarnate means Curtis LeMay is General Sherman's wing-man.

;-)
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
1847 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:53 pm to
lol
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
22993 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 7:04 pm to
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All of the facts lead to a conflict driven by the desire by a group of people to control another group for money and power.


The North got fat and rich on the tariffs that made the South a captive market. Politics melded with greed on that score.

In the South, the tariffs caused a decade long economic depression that travelers noted caused notable decay. The idea of the tariffs was that the South would trade with the North, but that didn't work out since the North preferred wool to cotton and was generally agriculturally self-sufficient. However, it did reduce Southern trade income massively.

To add insult to injury, 5 out of 6 dollars raised by tariffs went to improvements in the North.
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