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re: Thoughts on a big wake and funeral for suicide?
Posted on 10/1/18 at 9:47 am to Cosmo
Posted on 10/1/18 at 9:47 am to Cosmo
terrible idea.
we as a society have to stop glorifying and publicizing suicide. These people are not heroes or martyrs, they just are not.
And those downvoting. I get it. You’ve probably been close to someone who’s taken their life, but that isn’t an excuse to spin suicide as a normal everyday act. It’s not. It’s not up for debate either
we as a society have to stop glorifying and publicizing suicide. These people are not heroes or martyrs, they just are not.
And those downvoting. I get it. You’ve probably been close to someone who’s taken their life, but that isn’t an excuse to spin suicide as a normal everyday act. It’s not. It’s not up for debate either
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 9:48 am to baldona
The priest didn't fire and brimstone at the wake but it was obvious how he didn't mention his name during the service but more talked to the living about faith/perseverance. I'll take it a step farther and say they wouldn't even allow suicides to have services at the church 5 years prior to the funeral in 2016.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 9:50 am to Cosmo
I have written instructions in my will for how I want to be celebrated post-death.
1. Cremated and my family has to travel once a year/every couple of years TOGETHER to spread my ashes in different places on Earth. Forces them to be together. I will cover the costs with parts of my life insurance.
2. My wake will be casual dress at a rented out bar/venue, no black clothes allowed, open bar, crawfish (if in season), live music, people have an open mic option if they want to tell embarrassing stories about me. I will cover the costs with parts of my life insurance.
1. Cremated and my family has to travel once a year/every couple of years TOGETHER to spread my ashes in different places on Earth. Forces them to be together. I will cover the costs with parts of my life insurance.
2. My wake will be casual dress at a rented out bar/venue, no black clothes allowed, open bar, crawfish (if in season), live music, people have an open mic option if they want to tell embarrassing stories about me. I will cover the costs with parts of my life insurance.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 9:51 am to Cosmo
Why wouldn’t you give the same ceremony to someone who committed suicide as you would anyone else? That person still deserves a proper burial. I understand dealing with a suicide is a completely different, but my point stands.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 9:52 am to TheCaterpillar
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TheCaterpillar
Life insurance isn’t meant to pay for a party, but you do you.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 9:52 am to Klark Kent
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And those downvoting. I get it. You’ve probably been close to someone who’s taken their life, but that isn’t an excuse to spin suicide as a normal part of life
It is a normal part of life, though. People have been committing suicide for all of recorded history. People should stop acting as if "free will" is something strong enough to override a dysfunctional brain.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 9:53 am to Klark Kent
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And those downvoting. I get it. You’ve probably been close to someone who’s taken their life, but that isn’t an excuse to spin suicide as a normal everyday act. It’s not. It’s not up for debate either
As if your original post wasn't stupid enough, you had to go add this.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 9:54 am to TheCaterpillar
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2.
Are we related? I would hate to miss out on that party.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 9:55 am to Klark Kent
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terrible idea.
we as a society have to stop glorifying and publicizing suicide. These people are not heroes or martyrs, they just are not.
And those downvoting. I get it. You’ve probably been close to someone who’s taken their life, but that isn’t an excuse to spin suicide as a normal everyday act. It’s not. It’s not up for debate either
Its not normal and its tragic. They aren't heroes, but I think people are far too quick to call them selfish without understanding how mental illness and depression work. Some people who commit suicide actually think they're being selfless by removing the burden they create on others. People who say it is selfish are thinking clearly, vast majority of suicides are by people that are definitely not.
And then there's the rare case of terminal illnesses with terrible suffering involved. Those people deserve absolutely no criticism. I think there is bravery in that. They are able to accept their horrible fate and welcome the it. They are indeed a burden on others both emotionally and financially, not to mention the needless misery they are in.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 9:55 am to Klark Kent
I've been downvoting the whole thread. What you are saying is absolutely correct. One of the worst things you can do is "celebritize" suicide. It definitely isn't a normal act just trying to show it is an illness and can be prevented if dealt with properly.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 9:56 am to DeafJam73
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Life insurance isn’t meant to pay for a party, but you do you.
I can tell my relatives to set aside 20-30k out of the vast sum of money they'll get to throw a rager and travel the world as a family
Posted on 10/1/18 at 9:57 am to RocketTiger
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What you are saying is absolutely correct. One of the worst things you can do is "celebritize" suicide.
Since when is a funeral for their death? If someone dies of cancer at 95 is the funeral for their death? What about the other 95 years?
Funerals are for their life, remembering the good times. They are sad because the person is no longer around, not simply because the person died.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 9:58 am to RocketTiger
Literally no one in the thread is "celebritizing" suicide, you dolt. Understanding is different than glorifying.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 9:59 am to rbWarEagle
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Well, clearly you aren't the only one with, what seems to me, a pretty obvious gap in understanding of the human brain.
I know more about the brain than you do. Posted on 10/1/18 at 10:00 am to CarRamrod
I have my doubts.
Unless we have the same job. Which I doubt.
Unless we have the same job. Which I doubt.
This post was edited on 10/1/18 at 10:17 am
Posted on 10/1/18 at 10:01 am to Sneaky__Sally
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Right, obviously suicide is not a good choice. But people in depression and mental illness don't always think rationally - I think most people would agree that when someone commits suicide they are not in a rational state of mind.
To be fully adjusted to an insane society is not a sign of mental or emotional health. The older I get, the more I start to believe that the ones who seem "mentally unstable" and commit suicide may be the only sane ones amongst us. This is an insane world run and governed by largely sociopathic people and entities. The modern world is not a natural or health environment for human beings.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 10:02 am to RocketTiger
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One of the worst things you can do is "celebritize" suicide.
what funerals are you people going to that it is about how the person died?
funerals are for families and friends to celebrate their life
Posted on 10/1/18 at 10:02 am to LNCHBOX
quote:well there was an uptick in teen suicide after Netflix's, 13 Reasons Why, a series that was supposed to help prevent teen suicide.
And those downvoting. I get it. You’ve probably been close to someone who’s taken their life, but that isn’t an excuse to spin suicide as a normal everyday act. It’s not. It’s not up for debate either
As if your original post wasn't stupid enough, you had to go add this.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 10:03 am to rbWarEagle
quote:ooohhhhhhh k.
I can assure you that you don't.
Unless we have the same job
Posted on 10/1/18 at 10:06 am to ChineseBandit66
My father had started therapy and had been on meds for over half a year and he still attempted to kill himself 4 months ago.
Meds and therapy are great....but they don’t always fix someone with severe mental illness so easily.
Honestly....there is no “fix” to mental illness. They will live with it the rest of their lives. There is no cure for it. Only management and finding the right combination of treatments/therapies/meds/lifestyle changes for that individual person.
Meds and therapy are great....but they don’t always fix someone with severe mental illness so easily.
Honestly....there is no “fix” to mental illness. They will live with it the rest of their lives. There is no cure for it. Only management and finding the right combination of treatments/therapies/meds/lifestyle changes for that individual person.
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