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Those who struggle with depression, a thing I found to share, “Before you push the chair”

Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:27 pm
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:27 pm
Something I came across and really spoke to me.
If you’ve struggled or felt the ripples left in the wake of depression, it’s worth the listen or the read.


TL;DR hang on. Don’t listen to the lies in the darkness and hang on long enough for dawn to break


Before you push the chair-performed live starts at :59

Before You Push The Chair-Stephen Murphy

I want you to know that I've been there

In those moments when it feels as though
every wall's a prison
When the whole world kneels upon you
and the darkness of your vision
Has encompassed all before you
and turned your whole world black
And it feels as though you'll never get
to see your old world back.

I've been labelled with depression,
and branded with disease
And given the impression
that for anyone who sees
Past this great deception
that's been sold to us as fact
There's a template for expression
as to how we should react.

But I've come to see despair
as a product of control
That's embedded in our psyche
by the forces who patrol
What we read within our papers,
or see upon our screens
As deliberately tapered
to tamper with our dreams

And for all that we resist it,
it's there on every surface
From our buses to our bodies,
all designed to fit the purpose
To remind us that for all we have,
it's still never enough
That there'll always be that void to fill
with other mindless stuff

And though some still cling to God
to bring some structure to their lives
And others seem to need to be
destructive to survive
There's a whole new generation
wandering aimless and confused
Who were born into an age
that never had a God to lose
And in their quest for validation
they turn to the machine
'Cause they've come to know the world
through the comfort of a screen.

And I've seen the way we've gone
from being socially adept
From a people who were strong
to being totally inept
Where anxiety and loneliness
are living side by side
And everyone's just saving face
for fear of losing pride
As the constant threat of homelessness
and risk of repossession
Has come to manifest itself
as clinical depression
So we medicate the masses
just to keep them from the rope
And eradicate the last remaining
evidence of hope
Just to sell us back
the superficial versions of our selves
From the sacrificial altars
of our supermarket shelves
And then tell us that
'A problem halved is just a problem shared'
But thus a problem doubled
is a problem that's been layered
'Cause so many now despair
because to paraphrase Voltaire;
They see who rules who suffers,
yet still they're running scared.

But before you push the chair,
I want you to step down from there
And be the light you're born to be
To understand that those who see things differently
Are those who reshape history
That the prophets in the scriptures
were the poets of their time
And everyone you'll ever meet
has struggled with the mind
But one true friend will always trump
a million friends online

Where reality's distorted
and contorted to obscure
Designed to isolate us
and to make us insecure
But for all our social networks,
our net worth is obsolete
When we need the praise of strangers
to make us feel complete

But beyond our echo chambers,
when we lift our eyes we'll see
That around us lie the embers
of our own humanity
And as day is why we name the night
so too we'll come to see
That the they we like to blame in life
is only ever we
And for all we try to justify
the versions of our truth
They will always be perversions
to another's absolute
'Cause no matter where the roots lie,
the one thing guaranteed
Is that the plant will always come
to bear the hallmarks of the seed.

And I don't have all the answers,
and I'll never say I do
I've just as many doubts
and insecurities as you
But a friend of mine once told me
that I showed up in a dream
And I'm not exactly sure
what any of it means

But I was walking through a desert
with my back towards the sun
In a crowd of other people
but for every other one
Their shadows fell before them
but for me it fell behind
And he said that he just stood there
and watched us for a time

'Til at last I took an hourglass
and smashed it with a stone
Then poured the sand upon the sand
as there I stood alone
And when he asked me why I did it,
I turned to him and said;
'That was simply just the way
that the universe was made.'

I know that may sound clichéd,
but I've been thinking about it since
And the more that I've been thinking,
the more that I'm convinced
That maybe all of us are only
pouring dust upon the dust
And it's not us killing time
but more just time that's killing us

But when two people every day here now
are taking their own lives
And countless many others
are struggling to survive
At what point do we acknowledge
that this problem's epidemic
And not just a polemic
of some college academic?

'Cause we're so intent on carrying
this intense collective grief
That we seem content on marrying
our lack of self-belief
To a greater sense of victimhood
that always comes across
As a symptom of the dogma
we've adopted from the cross

But I'm tired of trying to find the words
'I'm sorry for your loss'
When that loss could be avoided
for a fraction of the cost
And I'm tired of the statistics,
'cause the numbers can't uphold
The stories of the victims
that will largely go untold
And I'm tired of the stigma
that still surrounds our mental health
As if for simply feeling
is a failing of the self
But I'm mostly just exhausted
'cause I'm all too well aware
That right now someone else
is just about to push the chair.

And I wish that I could tell them,
for however dark their plight
That through the shelter of each other
We can learn that love is light.



Better words than I can muster, and truth in every word.
This post was edited on 1/22/20 at 11:25 pm
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:29 pm to
A poem/song wouldn't help me not push the chair, but I'm glad it helps others.
Posted by ezride25
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:31 pm to
Jesus is light fwiw
Posted by Cracker
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:32 pm to
not reading that wall of text

But hey it’s ok to reach out, the OT is here for you chat
Posted by sgallo3
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:32 pm to
just try meditation
Posted by Chief Hinge
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:33 pm to
TL;DR

But I appreciate the help this could bring to someone.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:33 pm to
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:40 pm to
Oh no I’m fine. I just came across it and it’s really extremely well written.

And I know that many struggle or have others in their lives that struggle and felt it was worth sharing. You never know when someone is struggling and I believe that words can be powerful.

And I know it’s the OT, and jokes and nonsense are better received than anything that takes more than a goldfish attention span to process, but I felt it was good enough to share, that maybe someone might come across it or remember it when it matters.

Better to bring a little light into the world while we can. You never know when or where someone is going through their darkest night
Posted by OweO
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:42 pm to
If it helps someone then that's good, but the last thing someone who is fighting depression is to have someone give them some long arse poem in attempt to try to help them.

It might help someone who is down.. But there is a different between being "down" and being depressed.

Oh and before someone else says it "I wish someone would push your chair off a cliff"
This post was edited on 1/22/20 at 10:43 pm
Posted by OweO
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 11:02 pm to
I am not trying to be a dick, but I have dealt with depression in the past. It was something I struggled with for almost a year, but I got help and mine wasn't as severe as others, but when you are really depressed.. You know everything people will tell.. "Its going to be okay", "there is light at the end of the tunnel" "just do this and you will feel better", etc, etc, etc, etc..

None of that shite helps. Like I said in my other post. Maybe for someone who is feeling down.. Sure, they might need a little pick me up. That's good. But when I struggled with it, if someone would have suggested to me that I read a fricking poem, it would have made me angry as well. If I felt like expressing what I would have felt, I would have told them to take their fricking poem and go frick themselves.
Posted by Spitcup
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 11:12 pm to
quote:


Oh and before someone else says it "I wish someone would push your chair off a cliff"


I wish you’d push your chair off a cliff
Posted by Chief Hinge
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 11:15 pm to
Sorry, but this thread is standing room only.
Posted by Bawcephus
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 11:45 pm to
wouldn't you "kick" the chair?
Posted by fr33manator
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 12:05 am to
quote:

wouldn't you "kick" the chair?



Not if Alabama counted on you for field goals.


The author is Irish. There’s some nuance to the language but the point stands.

Whether you’re standing on the ledge,
You’re toes upon the edge,
Or perched atop the chair,
In the noose of deep despair,
Your wrist upon the blade,
Distraught, alone afraid,
The barrel to your head,
Hold on, and then instead,

Take a breath, and then step back,
Though the night is bleak and black,
Take your neck out from the rope,
All’s not lost, don’t give up hope,
Ease the pressure from the knife,
There’s much more to this life,
On the table set the gun,
Because the way the war is won,

Is every battle,
Every day,
That we rise above the fray,
And carry on,
Fight back the fear,
For hope’s not lost
Long as we’re here

This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 7:28 am
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 12:06 am to
Fr33, what have these words done for you, if you don't mind me asking.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 12:17 am to
It was only by Chance that I heard them a few days ago. And ever since then I couldn’t shake them. They were poignant and perfect and I’ve been in that spot. And the repercussions of those who might have been there and not seen the way out still eat at me.

I’m no hippy dippy but sometimes I feel the pull of the universe saying “someone needs to hear this.” And So I oblige, knowing full well it will fall upon many deaf ears and eyes that won’t pay it any mind. But I felt in those words some light, a flame of hope it lit in me. And knowing full well the dark I thought it worth sharing the same flame, that someone else might find it and feel a little warmth when it seems cold. We share all sorts of nonsense that amounts to nothing here. I’m as guilty as others.

It just seemed worth it to share something good.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 12:18 am to
Do you believe in medication for depression?
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 12:36 am to
I mean I believe that medication can help people. I think lots of things can help people.

Sometimes it’s just a smile or a kind word. Making you feel like you matter. There’s so much dark in this world. Lies and deceit Seem the order of the day.

But as cynical as I am something in me fights to find the good. That there are things worth hanging around for. Even when it all seems lost and hopeless. I don’t fault whatever people find to push back the dark
Posted by domesticengineer
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 5:50 am to
The Untethered Soul by Michael Singer is great as well.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 5:51 am to
I agree, sometimes all it takes is a smile
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