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re: This might be the mildest winter in my lifetime.
Posted on 12/26/16 at 6:31 pm to tLSU
Posted on 12/26/16 at 6:31 pm to tLSU
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I never said anything about scientists
Fair enough. I misinterpreted what you were trying to say in that original post, I admitted my mistake.
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an invest forms
An investigation area?
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or when we have a warm winter, or when we have a wildfire. It's that absurdity which does tend to make the trumpet climate crowd change look foolish and ignorant.
Look, dude, temperature trends are currently headed up. You can't spin it any other way. Changes in rainfall patterns can help contribute to wildfires, but to me the main culprit is moving away from a natural fire regime and the build up of fuel loads (Smokey the Bear did his job too well), which is an entirely different debate.
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Let's be honest, no one here can perceive the temperature difference of one degree farenheit over 30 years.
You're right, probably not, but we can see the weather report and look at the numbers through the years to form an idea. And again, this depends on your latitude, and likely altitude. Some areas have seen larger increases than others, and the increase in those areas is quite important(the polar regions for example).
But, personally, I can sure as hell tell a one degree temperature difference within my house. Perhaps someone can tell that it's getting warmer, on average, year to year.
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Climate change isn't causing more storms, we're actually in the longest drought of a major hurricane landfall in the United States in recorded history, since 1851.
So, which is it? Less (major) storms or just less landfalls of major storms in the USA? You'd also need to look worldwide at these numbers, not just the USA. Pretty sure major hurricanes are still being spawned out there regardless of whether or not the hit the US. Hell, 2016 had an Atlantic hurricane spawn in January. But as far as I know, this data is inconclusive (both for and against a upward trend) and I never brought up tropical storms.
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Climate change didn't cause "Super storm Sandy", a weak category one hurricane.
No, of course it didn't. This was a case of, location, location, location...much like the difference between a child's toy and a sex toy.
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As long as a certain crowd keeps calling "wolf," you're going to turn people off from trying to address anything at all.
This will delve into the realm of psychology, politics, and business/economics, with a strong confirmation bias, or bias in general one way or the other, in effect.
Posted on 12/26/16 at 6:56 pm to Tesla
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You know what is NOT science? Claiming broad-reaching environmental changes based on very specific causalities calculated by completely ignoring all precedence because of "consensus."
Are you saying there are lots of scientific studies out there that are not making it out of the peer review process that refute climate change which are being suppressed due to the consensus? (This is a clumsy sentence, my apologies.) Are you saying there is too much signal/noise to pick through to make accurate models, and that we should not then make changes based on said models?
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You know there was consensus about a flat Earth and the sun rotating about the Earth once too. They called all who questioned it heretics and deniers.
So, in this case, the common man, close minded, and religious will be shown to be correct? I'm not sure where you're trying to go with that analogy. I mean, you've got multiple branches of science agreeing that something is going on with the climate. Are they all wrong?
I'll admit that the debate is still there for the ultimate cause of, and how dire the damage will be due to, climate change.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 5:47 pm to KosmoCramer
So you think one cold snap means this isn't a mild winter? It's supposed to be almost 80 on Thursday.
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