re: This is what schools face in dealing with violent kids.

I think that happens. Maybe not for violent kids, but for others. My son told me he didn't want to sit next to a certain girl in school. She just moved here and speaks no English at all, yet is somehow in his regular classes. He said he doesn't like sitting next to her because another girl tells her all the answers and it is distracting. I think they'll just pass this kid on without ever teaching her much.

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Dealing with this right now with a child in my son's class. The classroom has been evacuated and the door held closed with the child inside until someone could get there to help. It's.not the first time this year the other children had to evacuate the 1Sr grade classroom this year. He's thrown a chair at a substitute, held a classmate against the fence while kicking him,attempted to stab a lunch lady with his lunch utinsil, screams & jumps on bus seats every commute, stolen more than we will ever put together, forced classmates to buy him seconds at lunch, regularly trips random people in the hallway... I can go on. He has only been suspended 1 day this year.

No worries, though. His mother is treating his behavior by removing gluten & additives from his diet - the food endowment steal from others

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Someone needs to whip that little POS arse. If a bigger kid would break these little frickers jaws and make them sip broth through a straw for two months, maybe theyll learn

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Sorry but I totally disagree with this. I teach middle school and the kids I teach listen primarily to rap. They are seriously influenced by the anti-authority, just out to have a good time, thug life mentality

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Rap now is not even close to as bad as it was in the 90's and early 2000's

The federal government continues to try and step in and tell everyone how to run their schools based on "research". Both in discipline and how students are taught. I am one that is against Common Core, mainly b/c it takes away even more classroom control from the teachers. Not every student learns the same, and not every student needs to be disciplined the same. Here are some quotes from Eric Holder and Arne Duncan on how they think schools should handle discipline. It's pretty clear what they are saying, the same old story of minorities having it so bad and that it's the schools fault. They don't want to call out the parents, b/c they need their votes, so they instead come down on the schools and teachers. They are empowering the people that are the problem by saying "Hey, you just keep doing what you are doing at home and we will make the schools cater to you. Oh, and don't forget to vote."


BALTIMORE — Bringing new attention to harsh punishments in schools, federal officials Wednesday urged educators across the country to move away from practices that suspend students for minor infractions and disproportionately affect minorities.

“The need to rethink and redesign school discipline practices is frankly long overdue,” said Education Secretary Arne Duncan, speaking in Baltimore alongside Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. as the two leaders unveiled what were described as the first national guidelines on school discipline.

Duncan told the crowd that racial discrimination in school discipline is “a real problem today — it’s not just an issue from 30 or 40 or 50 years ago.” He said the Obama administration is the first to provide national guidance on the issue.

The toll of tough discipline is clear, the federal leaders said: Secondary schools suspend or expel 2 million students each year. “That’s a staggering amount of lost learning time and lost opportunity to provide more meaningful support,” Duncan said.

Duncan said that students should be removed from classrooms “as a last resort,” and only for serious infractions such as endangering the safety of other students or teachers.

Their effort followed a landmark 2011 study of nearly 1 million Texas students that associated suspensions with academic failure, dropping out and involvement in the juvenile justice system

The administration will propose $50 million in grants to more than 1,000 schools to train teachers and staff in research-based strategies aimed at improving student behavior and school climate, officials said.

According to comprehensive Education Department data on the 2009-10 school year, Virginia suspended 7.9 percent of its students and Maryland 6.9 percent. Duncan noted Wednesday that South Carolina suspended 12.7 percent of its students — at the high end of the spectrum — while North Dakota suspended just 2.2 percent.

“That huge disparity is not caused by differences in children,” he said. “It is caused by differences in training, professional development and discipline policies.”


How many minorities live in North Dakota vs South Carolina? Do these people actually believe that the disparity in suspensions is due to training??? They don't want them suspended b/c that is "lost learning time". So their answer is to keep them in class and have 25 students suffer lost learning time while the teacher continues to deal with the kid throwing books at people. We have to stop giving people(ALL people) so many freebies. You don't want to work, here's a check. You had your 10th kid, here's a check. Your kid is mentally unstable(according the doctor getting kickbacks), here's a check. You don't discipline your kid and thus he/she is a disruption at school, no worries, we are going to force the school to keep them so that it doesn't interrupt your daily nap. Now, start TAKING checks away each month b/c a child is acting up in school or not showing up with homework. Then see how fast momma smacks junior upside his head and tells him to get is act together.

And this is just the beginning. Imagine the rest of his life when he almost certainly rapes and/or kills someone. Think of the courts, the judges, the security guards, and the fact that he's going to be in maximum security prison for the rest of his life. Better just take the kid out of his misery now, as well as sterilize any remaining members of his family.

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Link shows the problem but most will miss it. Parents fricking suck. Absolute shite parenting that carries over to their shitty kids. Girl stabs a boy twice, mom blames boy for aggravating her. Seriously?

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Yep. People blame the schools for shitty kids and the fact that we need to dump more money into education. The kid being educated in school isn't the problem. The problem is these kids have super shitty parents whose lives are chaotic and they now have an outlet in school to vent out their frustration at life, and thus all the other kids are fricked. When I'm in charge the first thing I do is find all these fricked up kids, do background checks on their families, and then forced sterilization all around when they don't meet the criteria for even a halfway passable human being. Watch the classrooms get safer, watch the quality of education rise, and watch crime rates plummet over a single generation.

frick this kid's parents.

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The problem is these kids have super shitty parents whose lives are chaotic and they now have an outlet in school to vent out their frustration at life,

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Parents. Parents. Parents.

These fricked up kids are absolutely the product of their parents. I honestly think that kid's parents should have to start being held responsible for their kid's actions in school and their schoolwork.

I have a child who can't sit still. I took him off gluten for a month. It was expensive as he'll and his conduct grades got considerably worse