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re: This is the ONLY answer to school shootings

Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:24 pm to
Posted by Barbellthor
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:24 pm to
I love it, OP. But...you gonna pay for it?
Posted by RATeamWannabe
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:26 pm to
It was a sarcastic supporting post of your point.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:27 pm to
Okay, can someone show me a link to someone who was able to use an assault rifle to shoot and kill people to protect his business?

Or can someone show me a link to where they were able to use their semi automatic assault rifle to protect their home, and it was legitimately more efficient to use that semi automatic rifle instead of a pistol or shotgun?

ETA: I don’t want your “scenario” or some backlash website showing how it can be more effective. I want to see an actual example of it happening in the real world. Someone change my mind. I’m open to changing my mind if it can legitimately be shown that semi automatic assault rifles have not only protected people, but was much more effective than a pistol or shotgun and neither of those would have been able to help.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 12:31 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:28 pm to
Seems awful.

I'd rather go with more money for mental health, putting troubled people in locked facility and not let them out until they seem normal.

This particular case had warning signals. Snag him and keep him away from humans except in hospital setting.
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:28 pm to
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Yes let's spread our police force even more thin to prevent something that happens like 1-2 times a year on average.


Holy frick I hope you're not really serious about what you just said.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 12:31 pm
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:28 pm to
Even if that has never happened, it doesn't matter.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Member since May 2013
35765 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:28 pm to
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How does every single mass shooting end?
When they run out of targets, or when someone else fight back?


They end in a lot of ways that I can recall. When they get shot by someone else (the police are the ones doing this in the vast majority, unless I've missed some), they run and get arrested, or they put a bullet in their own head.
Posted by Breesus
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:29 pm to
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So how many mass killings in America have there been this year using motor vehicles? And where can you easily buy pipe bombs?


You're missing the point
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:30 pm to
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Okay, can someone show me a link to someone who was able to use an assault rifle to shoot and kill people to protect his business?


LINK

ETA - home invasion, 3 intruders all killed
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 12:31 pm
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:30 pm to
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It's an objective fact that America is not the only country will a violence problem nor is it the only country with a mass casualty problem.



That you cannot see the scope of the problem in the US versus other countries is why you are dense and the reason that the discussion will get nowhere.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:31 pm to
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semi automatic assault rifle


Dude. Please stop repeating this nonsense bullet point you read on CNN. For the love of God educate yourself a little bit before you try to talk about a topic.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:31 pm to
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but school buses don't have seat belts


Are you sure about this? I thought they do...I've been on one for a party bus and they had them.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22847 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:32 pm to
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Read a little bit about Australia’s laws. You can own a semi automatic, but you have to have legitimate proof as to why.

I essentially assume everyone is a dumbass, and I don’t think dumbass’s need semi automatic rifles. But I think it’s a good compromise that if you can give a legitimate reason why you need one besides “murica and guns and beeeer” then you can have one.


Sign me up for that as soon as we institute a literacy test and basic civics test to exercise the right to vote.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14887 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:32 pm to
So the three people broke into his house and none of them had a gun, and only an assault rifle was going to stop them? If he had a pistol or shotgun in his hand, he wouldn’t have made it?

Yeah, the ak-47 saved him. But any gun would have.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35765 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:32 pm to
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Motor Vehicles are a million times more efficient. You can drive your car through a crowded intersection or a school yard at lunch. Better ban all motor vehicles.

Also Pipe bombs at school assemblies. Better ban nails and marbles and pipes and gas and butane while we're at it.




this argument gets more funny and ridiculous every time someone trots it out.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14887 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:33 pm to
I missing your hypothetical points?
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
69475 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:33 pm to
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That you cannot see the scope of the problem in the US versus other countries is why you are dense


Explain it to me.

You're upset about the tool America uses but you refuse to admit that psychos will kill people regardless of what tools you ban from the populous.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
69475 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:34 pm to
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Are you sure about this? I


Yes. Many school busses don't have seat belts. I rode on one last weekend. I
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
69475 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:35 pm to
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this argument gets more funny and ridiculous every time someone trots it out.


Care to discuss it? Why is it ridiculous?

Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35765 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:38 pm to
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Seems awful.

I'd rather go with more money for mental health, putting troubled people in locked facility and not let them out until they seem normal.

This particular case had warning signals. Snag him and keep him away from humans except in hospital setting.



The problem here is that many of you are looking at this as "it has to be either A or B", when in reality it's a combination of many things that are needed.

And the narrative from some people is reminding me of this onion article

quote:

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

5/27/14 3:14pmSEE MORE: NEWS ISLA VISTA, CA—In the days following a violent rampage in southern California in which a lone attacker killed seven individuals, including himself, and seriously injured over a dozen others, citizens living in the only country where this kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Tuesday that there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop them,” said North Carolina resident Samuel Wipper, echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20 times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything that was going to keep this guy from snapping and killing a lot of people if that’s what he really wanted.” At press time, residents of the only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass shootings have occurred every month for the past five years were referring to themselves and their situation as “helpless.”
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