re: This is the future for fraternities...

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You're right, but the LSU greek system clearly skews towards private school, country club, well connected kids with nice rides who've never had to work a real job before.

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I can only speak of when I was in school at LSU and the guys in my and other fraternities that I knew so everyone's experience is different. I would say at least half of the guys in the 90's in my fraternity had part time jobs, came from middle class families in LA, TX, & MS (for the most part), and at least 10 were in the guard or on ROTC scholarships to pay for tuition.

Did we act like "douches" some of the time? Absolutely. As did pretty much every kid in college at some point. Did we do charity work as well? Yes. Even if it was for the sole reason of meeting new sorority girls. I guess the right thing for the wrong reason is still important some times.

I just never understood anyone who immediately hated guys in fraternities for no other reason than they weren't in one and the same for fraternity guys who thought they were better than GDI's.

I would also say that in my time in fraternities most kids join or go through rush because they are NOT connected and just want to meet some guys will similar interests outside of maybe 2-3 old row ones.

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There is a higher concentration of entitled douche bags than in the general population of students.

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This is true. What Forever has been saying in this thread is also true. I did the frat thing, but it didn’t define my college experience. Anytime the frat argument comes up, both sides generally argue the extremes, and in certain instances, they are right. My experience is that overall, it’s just a personal thing, and I don’t look down on either side for their decision.

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I didn’t meet anyone who worked a “real job” to get by in college. If you want to meet those people, go to trade school


What the hell?

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Yeah.. that was a brag..

Yeah I love the idea that a state school in one of the poorest states in the country is overflowing with opulently wealthy kids

RIP South Seas

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So you don't think Greek kids skew towards higher socioeconomic groups?

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Than other white kids who are going to LSU and in similar majors? As a mathematical average, yes, in the sense that their parents are upper middle class, and by definition, the average of any population is going to be “average” or “middle class”. Anecdotally, out of the 5 or so people I’d met whose parents were ultra rich I.E. $100,000,000 net worth or above, they were all non-Greek. And out of the people who bragged about money, verbally said they were rich or implied it, thought about money regularly, tried to use money specifically to get girls, etc. I’d say that more were non Greek people.

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You don't think it's more likely that they have brand new cars they didn't buy?

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Brand new? Not at all

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You don't think it's more likely their parents are well connected in insular Louisiana?

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I mean possibly? Again, in the sense that most Greek families are upper middle class?

You seem to have a complex about wealth and have an unrealistic perception of how wealthy or connected people are because they play the part or wear polo shirts.

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You're right, but the LSU greek system clearly skews towards private school, country club, well connected kids with nice rides who've never had to work a real job before. There is a higher concentration of entitled douche bags than in the general population of students.

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Frat daddy here. I paid for every dime of school, dues, and meal plan. The meal plan was the greatest for me. I drove an old Nissan hardbody 2x4 that I clutch started for two years. It was worth it because of the density of pretty women. Still have great friends from that time.

I never rushed, but frats should be allowed to exist. Freedom of association.