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re: There should be little sympathy for college graduates struggling to earn a livable wage
Posted on 9/11/24 at 11:46 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Posted on 9/11/24 at 11:46 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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if I left my current job, I wouldn't have to apply for one today either.
when I was approaching retirement a few years back I was inundated with unsolicited offers, good, tempting offers, my employer even offered up a sweet cushy position and asked me to stay
Posted on 9/11/24 at 11:48 am to StringedInstruments
College teaches you to problem solve. If problem solving includes looking it up on YouTube what is the problem? If something comes up in real life, I can google it or look it up on YouTube.
Posted on 9/11/24 at 11:48 am to 777Tiger
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when I was approaching retirement a few years back I was inundated with unsolicited offers, good, tempting offers, my employer even offered up a sweet cushy position and asked me to stay
Yep, same.
Today's workforce: "Don't email me after hours"
Posted on 9/11/24 at 11:50 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Today's workforce: "Don't email me after hours"
Todays workforce deals more with after hour requests than any before
Think about what an iPhone and take him work computer does to promote that.
Could you imagine life in 1997 when a work laptop didn’t exist and a phone was simply a home phone? Sounds like pure bliss for my job
This post was edited on 9/11/24 at 11:54 am
Posted on 9/11/24 at 11:51 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Today's workforce: "Don't email me after hours"
yep, all of the applicants seem to have demands that want the job to taper to their private, recreational wants
Posted on 9/11/24 at 11:54 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Yep, same.
Today's workforce: "Don't email me after hours"
So you're upset they're setting healthy boundaries with work?
Hasn't the long societal complaint been the deterioration of families because of two parents working to the degree that they're neglecting the attention they should be giving to their families to maintain a certain lifestyle?
Can't have it both ways, folks.
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:02 pm to lsupride87
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And kids today starting out factually have it worse than you based on their wages compared to home prices It’s just a fact. It’s doesn’t mean you or anyone else in the past didn’t have it rough, it just means it’s worse now. Not an opinion
I understand many have it tough, especially ones whose parents aren’t helping. My initial post was about so many of them sticking their noses up to living in shitty areas of town, whereas we may not have liked but we did anyways. The comment even gets said on here and I hear many young people saying it, “We either have to live in bad parts of town, or stay at home. “Unless we want to buy a house in the ghetto, we can’t afford one”
I’m just saying we did get houses in the ghetto :lol
None of that means it’s not difficult for todays young adults
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:05 pm to Mushroom1968
What you are seeing is middle to upper middle class people complain about affordable houses in nice areas. Middle and upper middle class people didn't have to live in the ghetto 30 years ago.
You and your friends were poor, so y'all didn't have a choice.
You and your friends were poor, so y'all didn't have a choice.
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:07 pm to lsupride87
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Could you imagine life in 1997 when a work laptop didn’t exist
I don’t have to imagine it.
But also I had a home computer and email since around 1990.
It’s a tough comparison because many job types didn’t exist then.
“Imagine working in e-commerce in 1995 with no laptop or cell phone. Pure bliss”
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:09 pm to BluegrassBelle
Don’t attribute societal complaints to me. IDGAF.
This phrase can be used in a lot of ways.
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Can't have it both ways, folks.
This phrase can be used in a lot of ways.
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:10 pm to Salmon
Correct. I lived in a trailer growing up. But that’s because we were very low on the salary wage 
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:10 pm to Salmon
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Middle and upper middle class people didn't have to live in the ghetto 30 years ago. You and your friends were poor, so y'all didn't have a choice.
If not living in the ghetto is one of the hallmarks of not being poor, maybe these people are poor?
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:11 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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This phrase can be used in a lot of ways.
aye
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:11 pm to Dawgfanman
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If not living in the ghetto is one of the hallmarks of not being poor, maybe these people are poor?
If that is what you want to argue, go ahead
but it is going to make my point even better
This post was edited on 9/11/24 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:11 pm to Dawgfanman
quote:Except they aren’t ….
not living in the ghetto is one of the hallmarks of not being poor, maybe these people are poor?
That’s the entire point. The middle class(based on wage) is worse off now than before
That is a pure fact based on average cost of goods and housing and average salary. No opinions. No emotions
The 50th percentile earner years ago was in better shape than the 50th percentile earner now
I truly don’t understand why some can’t either grasp that concept or just flat out refuse to accept it
This post was edited on 9/11/24 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:13 pm to Salmon
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What you are seeing is middle to upper middle class people complain about affordable houses in nice areas.
When did college graduates become middle to upper class?
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:14 pm to Salmon
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If that is what you want to argue, go ahead but it isn't going to make my point even better
Middle class doesn’t exist anymore. It’s the haves and have nots. Rural vs urban. Suburbs are where those who still cling to the idea of the “middle class” go to live and complain as it turns into a ghetto.
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:14 pm to Mushroom1968
Forget college or no college. Forget urban or rural. Forget nice or ghetto
Bob in 1995 who made exactly the 50th percentile salary could buy more with his wages than Bob the 50th percentile earner in 2024
Bob in 1995 who made exactly the 50th percentile salary could buy more with his wages than Bob the 50th percentile earner in 2024
This post was edited on 9/11/24 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:14 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:14 pm to Salmon
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Middle and upper middle class people didn't have to live in the ghetto 30 years ago.
They also have way different standards of living than people did 30 years ago.
Lower class people try to live like middle class, while middle class tries to live like upper class.
I grew up solid middle class. We rarely ate out and would take maybe one cheap vacation per year.
There are poor people eating out every meal.
The cost of living narrative is a bit misleading.
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