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There seems to be a lot of dog people on this board
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:33 pm
However, there also seems to be a lot of people who dislike pit bulls. So i ask you, the OT dog-lovers, would you rather have a pit bull or a cat?
i obviously pick the cat
i obviously pick the cat
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:35 pm to cosmickitty
If you train your cat well they are even better than dogs. Only thing a dog is superior at is hunting.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:36 pm to cosmickitty
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would you rather have a pit bull or a cat?
a fluffy little cat.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:37 pm to Collegedropout
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Only thing a dog is superior at is hunting.
I don't know, my dog is probably fairly superior at chewing shite up he's not supposed to chew and getting into all kinds of things he's not supposed to get into. He's kind of derpy.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:41 pm to cosmickitty
I adopted a pitbull at a shelter. She's a great dog. And I have no regrets. I'll go ahead and repost my Pitbull rant:
Yep. They're all vicious as hell.
I've been bringing mine to work everyday for about 5 months. A couple weeks ago I started nightshift, so I got her a vest. And this isn't in the job trailer on some small time residential project. It's a $100+ million major infrastructure project. I'm pretty sure they like her more than me around there. They definitely bring her more treats than me.
A little history lesson...
From the dog's initial breeding in America, they were bred to be very friendly with humans. Their job wasn't to protect their family against people. It was protect them and their farms against animals that would hurt their crops and animals.
They used to be the all-American breed of dogs. More popular than Golden Retrievers and Labradors. They were commonly used in advertisments, for companies like RCA and Buster Brown. You had Petey from the Little Rascals. Even the United States government used them in World War 1 ads.
So what happened?
People moved out to the suburbs after WW2, and other dogs became more popular with middle class families. Less tough and more friendly looking. Pits became more popular with lower economic class people, often still in the bigger cities and country. Eventually, scumbags got a hold of the breed. And that's where the breed's problems began.
The 3 major breeds known as pitbulls (American Pitbull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, and the Staffordshire Bull Terrier) came from an extinct breed called the Olde English Bulldogge (yes, that's the actual spelling). That breed was used for a sport bull baiting, which was outlawed in England in the early 1800s. So the desire to please their owners and the instincts to fight other animals at their command was buried in there. Which made it appealing for scumbag fighters.
But for decades, even dog fighters intentionally bred them against aggression towards humans. If a fight was going on, and they needed to stop it, you wanted to be sure they didn't go after your hand.
By the late 80s to 90s, a new batch of dog fighters appeared. They started fighting their dogs to the death. Almost sociopathic. They also became more popular in ghettos, and with rappers. Now random douchebags with inferiority complexs, started getting pitbulls to look tough and guard their house.
But pits aren't supposed to be guard dogs. If you raise them around people, and they are a part of the family, they have great, loving personalities. But training them to be a guard dog is against their instincts.
You want a guard dog, get a Chow, a Doberman, or a breed that bred to be a guard dog. These trashy scumbags just turn the dog into a wildcard, a loose cannon.
Dogs almost always attack out of fear. And by chaining them up outside all day, not socializing them, mistreating them, or raising them to be a guard dog, they're are scared as hell.
Now they're not all good dogs. Because of their popularity with trashy people, you have puppy mill pitbulls. And that's a huge problem. This isn't a Chihuahua or a Pomeranian. This is a 50-80 pound dog, that's incredibly athletic. It can, and has, killed people. When any big dog has bad breeding, it can and will be as unstable as any breed.
In one month where I'm working, I had four people ask me to buy my dog. What kind of person would ask a stranger walking their dog, at night, if theat dog is for sale? I was mad as hell every time. She's a 3.5 year old dog. It was obvious these trashy POS's had ulterior motives.
So go right ahead and ban all pitbulls. What do you think will happen? Do you really think these same scumbags will never get another dog? Of course they will. They'll just imbreed another type of dog. Maybe it'll be boxers or German Shepards, etc.
If you buy your dog at a flea market or a Walmart parking lot, you deserve to be slapped.
If you want to make legislation to protect against dog attacks, don't limit it to just pitbulls. Any dog with a shitty owner can be a problem. And if that dog is more then 20-25 lbs, it could seriously hurt a child. Make dog owner responsible for their dogs. Because if my face is getting chewed off, I don't care if it was a pitbull or a Labrador. My face is still gone.
Make regulations that create better owners. Require dog licensing. Make first time dog owners take a class on how to train and raise a dog. Keep it affordable. We've got the technology to teach and keep records. And if somebody can't afford a $50-100 class, then they shouldn't get a dog.
/Rant
Yep. They're all vicious as hell.
I've been bringing mine to work everyday for about 5 months. A couple weeks ago I started nightshift, so I got her a vest. And this isn't in the job trailer on some small time residential project. It's a $100+ million major infrastructure project. I'm pretty sure they like her more than me around there. They definitely bring her more treats than me.
A little history lesson...
From the dog's initial breeding in America, they were bred to be very friendly with humans. Their job wasn't to protect their family against people. It was protect them and their farms against animals that would hurt their crops and animals.
They used to be the all-American breed of dogs. More popular than Golden Retrievers and Labradors. They were commonly used in advertisments, for companies like RCA and Buster Brown. You had Petey from the Little Rascals. Even the United States government used them in World War 1 ads.
So what happened?
People moved out to the suburbs after WW2, and other dogs became more popular with middle class families. Less tough and more friendly looking. Pits became more popular with lower economic class people, often still in the bigger cities and country. Eventually, scumbags got a hold of the breed. And that's where the breed's problems began.
The 3 major breeds known as pitbulls (American Pitbull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, and the Staffordshire Bull Terrier) came from an extinct breed called the Olde English Bulldogge (yes, that's the actual spelling). That breed was used for a sport bull baiting, which was outlawed in England in the early 1800s. So the desire to please their owners and the instincts to fight other animals at their command was buried in there. Which made it appealing for scumbag fighters.
But for decades, even dog fighters intentionally bred them against aggression towards humans. If a fight was going on, and they needed to stop it, you wanted to be sure they didn't go after your hand.
By the late 80s to 90s, a new batch of dog fighters appeared. They started fighting their dogs to the death. Almost sociopathic. They also became more popular in ghettos, and with rappers. Now random douchebags with inferiority complexs, started getting pitbulls to look tough and guard their house.
But pits aren't supposed to be guard dogs. If you raise them around people, and they are a part of the family, they have great, loving personalities. But training them to be a guard dog is against their instincts.
You want a guard dog, get a Chow, a Doberman, or a breed that bred to be a guard dog. These trashy scumbags just turn the dog into a wildcard, a loose cannon.
Dogs almost always attack out of fear. And by chaining them up outside all day, not socializing them, mistreating them, or raising them to be a guard dog, they're are scared as hell.
Now they're not all good dogs. Because of their popularity with trashy people, you have puppy mill pitbulls. And that's a huge problem. This isn't a Chihuahua or a Pomeranian. This is a 50-80 pound dog, that's incredibly athletic. It can, and has, killed people. When any big dog has bad breeding, it can and will be as unstable as any breed.
In one month where I'm working, I had four people ask me to buy my dog. What kind of person would ask a stranger walking their dog, at night, if theat dog is for sale? I was mad as hell every time. She's a 3.5 year old dog. It was obvious these trashy POS's had ulterior motives.
So go right ahead and ban all pitbulls. What do you think will happen? Do you really think these same scumbags will never get another dog? Of course they will. They'll just imbreed another type of dog. Maybe it'll be boxers or German Shepards, etc.
If you buy your dog at a flea market or a Walmart parking lot, you deserve to be slapped.
If you want to make legislation to protect against dog attacks, don't limit it to just pitbulls. Any dog with a shitty owner can be a problem. And if that dog is more then 20-25 lbs, it could seriously hurt a child. Make dog owner responsible for their dogs. Because if my face is getting chewed off, I don't care if it was a pitbull or a Labrador. My face is still gone.
Make regulations that create better owners. Require dog licensing. Make first time dog owners take a class on how to train and raise a dog. Keep it affordable. We've got the technology to teach and keep records. And if somebody can't afford a $50-100 class, then they shouldn't get a dog.
/Rant
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:42 pm to cosmickitty
quote:
i obviously pick the cat
So you voted for Hillary.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:44 pm to Collegedropout
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If you train your cat well they are even better than dogs.
Dogs are so much better than cats. Cats can be straight up assholes. And if someone attempts to break into my house, they are not getting scared when they hear a cat meow.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:45 pm to OweO
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Cats can be straight up assholes.
That's why I said train them right.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:47 pm to cosmickitty
Cat won't try to eat me or my children so I go with cat
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:48 pm to cosmickitty
There's a good bit of police officers that post as well
Not a good combination
Not a good combination
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:48 pm to cosmickitty
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There seems to be a lot of dog people on this board
If I was doing rescue in a flood, I would save the dog first, then the human.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:49 pm to OweO
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Dogs are so much better than cats. Cats can be straight up assholes
boooooo!!
if youre cool to your cat, your cat will be cool to you. its pretty simple.
dogs have too much energy and require too much attention. theyre not mean or anything. just annoying
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:50 pm to Collegedropout
I've never heard of people training cats. Dogs. On the other hand, are pretty easy to train and socialize. I brought mine to a dozen+ music festivals as a puppy. Now, she loves people a little too much. She'll try to say hello to everyone she sees.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:50 pm to cosmickitty
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a lot of dog people on this board
HOW DARE YOU TALK ABOUT THE LLOTOT THAT WAY!!!
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:50 pm to CCTider
didnt read 100% of it but what i got was "shitty people raise shitty pets" and in the words of Kige, I agree with this
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:51 pm to cosmickitty
I don't even care about how dangerous pitbulls are. They're ugly. You want an intimidating dog for protection, get one that looks good. Rottweiler, German shepherd,etc.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:52 pm to Ed Osteen
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Holy shite dude
There's a reason I bookmarked it a while back. It gets regular use around the OT.
I also didn't just seek out a pitbull. That's what was at all of the shelters. So I did a shite load of research about them before adopting. That, with my personal experience with the breed, made me willing to adopt a pit.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:55 pm to Supermoto Tiger
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If I was doing rescue in a flood, I would save the dog first, then the human.
i mean if the human could save itself, then yeah. but if theyre both equally helpless, then thats not cool
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