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re: The wife and I made a difficult decision this weekend

Posted on 8/12/18 at 11:11 pm to
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/12/18 at 11:11 pm to
How old are your kids? When did you start saving for them?

I don’t have kids but if I did I figure I have 18 years to save for college and will start before they are born. Private school for K-12 would cost me over 100k. I think I would move to the suburbs and use that money for their college instead.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/12/18 at 11:11 pm to
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Not helping your kids in college is pretty shitty parenting


Parenting does not mean giving you shite. Parenting is now over. Life now begins. Welcome to the real world. Happy Birthday
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53076 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 11:12 pm to
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It's not just you.

I was fortunate enough to have a dad that paid my tuition. He wouldn't pay for an apartment (and I don't blame him) or anything but we lived 10 miles from LSU. Granted my annual tuition was probably 2.5k back then.

I'm going to take the same strategy with my daughter. She can live at home and I'll help her with transportation and school expenses. Otherwise it's on her.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37517 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 11:12 pm to
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Parenting does not mean giving you shite. Parenting is now over. Life now begins. Welcome to the real world. Happy Birthday
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52900 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 11:13 pm to
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Since when did a college education ever become the responsibility of parents anyway?


It obviously isn’t an obligation, but now a days deciding not to provide at least significant help is a decision to knowingly set them at least a decade behind the curve.

It’s a difficult hurdle for them to surmount on their own. Although one potential recovery point is to help them “catch up” by offering assistance on their first house. Maybe invest and save to look to pay off one or two loans years after graduation and their life stabilizes so their DTI isn’t as damaging to their application.




You don’t have to tell them you are planning this, Force them to figure it out on their own. But IMO, the move into a house is the most damaging long term aspect of student loan debt.

The OP is 100% right to not put retirement under it though.

It’s just a cautionary tale to start building a nest egg as soon as possible. People continually underestimate the power of time in the market, and in many cases (don’t know if it’s the case here) don’t even start thinking about college till they have 3 kids already and the oldest is seven.

You would need to put aside on the order of 600/month to realistically fund college for that. Compared to around 250/month if you started when you found out she was pregnant or even better: when you decided to try having kids.
This post was edited on 8/12/18 at 11:22 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36713 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 11:14 pm to
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I’m happy my parents didn’t help me out eta: with tuition. I’m better for it and happy my selfless parents are spending their hard earned money on my kids, which brings them joy.


College probably cost 1/10 of what it does now when you were there. With no help at all even with tops kids are going to have several 10s of thousands of dollars in loans upon graduation. Then you're going to bitch at them because they don't have any money to buy a house until theyre 40.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15647 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 11:15 pm to
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figure out how to get free or almost free schooling.


I live in N. MS and two years of Jr. college is free to every high school graduate in about 8 counties. It amazes me that people don't take full advantage of it and pay for 4 years at Ole Miss or State.

Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68566 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 11:16 pm to
Way to put your kids in the hole as soon as they enter adulthood.

Great parenting! True love.
This post was edited on 8/12/18 at 11:17 pm
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 11:17 pm to
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Every doctor I know started off with "heavy debt." I came out of college with 4 years worth of student loans and I'm doing just fine.


LOL...I guess I missed in the OP where he stated he wouldn't pay for med school. I thought it said college...oh wait

Dont be a dumbass

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travel ball type dads


Not sure what the hell that means.

quote:

you have no kids at all.


I have 4, genius

0 for 3...but keep swinging

What a dumb frick
Posted by DVNO
Four Capital Letters
Member since Jun 2013
397 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 11:17 pm to
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That being that we will not be paying for our kids college.


Mkes me thankful that my parents paid for undergrad and grad school

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We crunched numbers all day Saturday and it would just eat too much of our retirement. Luckily she is on the same page as me on this: we don't have to sacrifice our future for something adults can obtain on their own.


now i know why anglo kids put their parents in old folks homes.
Posted by ellishughtiger
70118
Member since Jul 2004
21182 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 11:18 pm to
Find a side hustle like Lyft, Uber, Waitr, waggle (dog walking service), postmates. Endless options these days.

Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16693 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 11:19 pm to
Parents are college income earners, so I'm assuming at minimum $45K/yr each.

How about the parents work an extra yr into retirement to help the kids out.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18371 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 11:20 pm to
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Help them with rent and gas money.



Where do people get the nerves to tell others how to parent
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53076 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 11:20 pm to
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Find a side hustle like Lyft, Uber, Waitr, waggle (dog walking service), postmates. Endless options these days. 


Maybe OP has 5 kids? That would be a severe strain on most. My dad had 3 at LSU at once (pre TOPS) but tuition wasn't 6k per semester back then either.
Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
11048 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 11:21 pm to
So what about a daughters wedding ? Gotta pay that 20 grand plus. The OT did t consider that part....
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18371 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 11:21 pm to
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How about the parents work an extra yr into retirement to help the kids out.


How about not telling someone you don’t even know to work an extra year into retirement
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42920 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 11:21 pm to
I guess putting away ~3k a year for 18 years was not on the table when you had kids?

Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 11:22 pm to
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What kind of cars do you drive?

If you are willing to buy an f250 for yourself and a tahoe for your wife but wont pay for college you are kinda a bitch


OP owns a pool, which is a great way to spend money
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37517 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 11:22 pm to
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Great parenting! True love.

This isn't necessary. People have different philosophies on this and both sides have good points. I was expected to finance my own education and I feel better for it. I'm taking the same approach with my kids.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18371 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 11:23 pm to
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Find a side hustle like Lyft, Uber, Waitr, waggle (dog walking service), postmates. Endless options these days.


Tell his kids to find a side hustle
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