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re: The Uvalde PD is such a national fricking embarrassment that they’ve managed the impossible
Posted on 5/29/22 at 6:10 am to Solo Cam
Posted on 5/29/22 at 6:10 am to Solo Cam
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The kid legally bought two AR's and gunned down elementary children, clearly there's an issue there.
The issue is not the tool he used. He could’ve just as easily driven over a crowd of kids in the carpool line or at a Christmas parade. Would you be arguing we restrict and scrutinize the number of cars? Of course not. Because the tool isn’t the issue.
Violent psychos will find ways to harm people. Banning the tools they use would do nothing to change that.
We have an under-stimulated and over-medicated hopeless male youth problem in this country.
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there no chance He would have been nearly as effective with holding off officers with a handgun, shotgun or hunting rifle.
He absolutely could be equally as effective if not more so with a semiauto shotgun and a couple handguns. That’s asinine.
Define “hunting rifle” and explain the difference between a hunting rifle and an AR15.
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I think the best case that could be made is to arm teachers
Have you met most teachers? You want to trust them with guns and emergency response active shooter engagement? People who make this suggestion I assume have never fired a gun much less been in an active shooting situation.
And can you not think of a slippery slope with arming teachers everywhere? 1- you introduce more guns into schools. 2- you create a militia inside of every place where we trust our children.
We desperately need to end the welfare state, get fathers back into homes, rebuild our manufacturing and trade professions, end our addiction to social media and electronic entertainment, and for the love of God stop blasting anger towards young white males every day from every MSM outlet.
The outrage culture we live in resonates to the extremes with the extreme fringes of our society. We need to address it.
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 6:16 am
Posted on 5/29/22 at 6:15 am to Solo Cam
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That doesn't mean that we can't get better mental screening and raise the gun purchase age to 21 on assaults rifles. You can't get a concealed carry until your 21
Define assault rifle.
Explain to me how raising the concealed carry age would stop a violent psycho who is intent on murdering people from concealed carrying?
The only thing restrictions due is restrict the law abiding good people from exercising their rights. Violent criminals don’t give a shite about the law.
quote:Nothing before the word but matters or is true as usual.
I'm as pro-gun as it comes but
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 6:16 am
Posted on 5/29/22 at 6:26 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:Have you bought a gun lately? I've bought 3 so far this year, it's really easy.
Yes it does, it should be even easier to buy a gun than it is right now.
quote:Never said guns are the problem. Argue me, don't create a fake argument and talk to yourself.
The issue is mental health and a rotting society. It has zero to do with guns. There’s not even a cogent argument that says guns are the problem.
My issue is that clearly this problem had mental health issues and he legally bought 2 AR's, you don't even want to look at how this happened and try to prevent it?
To me there should be no age limit on purchase or having a shotgun or hunting rifle with a 6 round magazine max.
You should be 21 to purchase a handgun or assault rifle and 18 to posses.
quote:If you don't want to have a real conversation then we don't have to.
A 12 year old with a sling shot could have held off the Uvalde police.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 6:46 am to Nguyener
quote:For the fourth time, my issue is not with the weapon, it's with how the 18 year old psycho got it.
The issue is not the tool he used. He could’ve just as easily driven over a crowd of kids in the carpool line or at a Christmas parade. Would you be arguing we restrict and scrutinize the number of cars? Of course not. Because the tool isn’t the issue.
Your a law abiding citizen with not between 18-21? Then it has no effect on you.
I'm not going to engage with the "tools at fault argument" but when's the last time a car drove into a school and ran over 20 kids? Come on man, be better.
quote:Asinine? Ok jackass explain this logic then- why the frick do you need an assault rifle? Just get you a couple of handguns.
He absolutely could be equally as effective if not more so with a semiauto shotgun and a couple handguns. That’s asinine.
Again- I don't think assault rifles should be banned. Just need to raise the purchase age to 21 and do some sort of mental health screening. I can't believe this Isn't common place already.
quote:I'm not going to educate you on what a rifle is or how to distinguish from an assault rifle and a hunting rifle bevsue your going to say "well I can bum hunt with my AR so it's a hunting rifle"
Define “hunting rifle” and explain the difference between a hunting rifle and an AR15.
Any weapon above a .22lr with a a magazine that is in excess of 10 rounds does not qualify as a hunting rifle. You just have to be 21 to purchase and 18 to possess.
quote:Hmm almost like you think they should have some sort of screening and training to carry a firearm huh?
Have you met most teachers? You want to trust them with guns and emergency response active shooter engagement? People who make this suggestion I assume have never fired a gun much less been in an active shooting situation.
quote:Allowing a teacher to carry is not the same as arming every single teacher.
And can you not think of a slippery slope with arming teachers everywhere? 1- you introduce more guns into schools. 2- you create a militia inside of every place where we trust our children.
Wait a militia? Lol ok buddy
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We desperately need to end the welfare state, get fathers back into homes, rebuild our manufacturing and trade professions, end our addiction to social media and electronic entertainment, and for the love of God stop blasting anger towards young white males every day from every MSM outlet.
This was a Hispanic male that shot Hispanic students. For one second chill with your ideologic views and re-read tansy you just said. Your solution for this station is to:
- get fathers back in homes
- focus on building things in America
- get kids off of social media
- stop the medias war on white
Let me honest with with- I agree with your views but that doesn't even begin to address how do we stop one of these from happening again?
I love utopia too but it doesn't exist
Posted on 5/29/22 at 6:53 am to kywildcatfanone
quote:You answered your own question.
just the opportunity to squeeze more freedom from the American people?
Posted on 5/29/22 at 6:56 am to Nguyener
quote:You'd have to case by case. I'm
Define assault rifle.
Not a politician. I have an AR-10, kalashnikov ak 103, and two AR's I've built. Not once have I ever picked up any of them to go hunting. I've shot hogs with my AR but could have done the exact same thing with a semi-auto 30-06.
I would say any caliber above .22lr that has a magazine that carry's an excess of 10+ rounds.
quote:Explain to me where anyone says to raise the concealed carry age? I just stated it to drive home the fact that purchasing an AR or handgun should be for 21+ year olds or first responders/military 18-21.
Explain to me how raising the concealed carry age would stop a violent psycho who is intent on murdering people from concealed carrying?
quote:This is what's wrong with the world. Your so locked into your side that you literally don't want to read what I'm saying and I'm literally on your team.
Nothing before the word but matters or is true as usual.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 6:58 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:a 10 year old with a pop gun could have held them off
A 12 year old with a sling shot could have held off the Uvalde police.
Hell, an 8-year old with a pop TART gun would send them scurrying to hide
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 5/29/22 at 6:59 am to Solo Cam
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This is what's wrong with the world. Your so locked into your side that you literally don't want to read what I'm saying and I'm literally on your team.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:00 am to Solo Cam
A semi-automatic rifle, even an AR-15, is not an assault rifle.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:05 am to hikingfan
I don’t want them to commit suicide but they should be the reason law is changed and an act like that is prosecuted
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:05 am to FightinTigersDammit
quote:So you define an AR-15 with 30 rounds as a deer rifle?
A semi-automatic rifle, even an AR-15, is not an assault rifle.
What do you not agree with? Mental screening or raising the purchase age from 18 to 21?
Again guys, I own and don't think AR's should be banned. This is simply looking at the facts. Our country has an excess of crazy people that are over medicated and it's just too easy get a gun if a psychotic 18 year old can purchase a weapon and gun down children while holding cops at bay,
Didn't the train professional border agent still take 2 rounds when he took down the shooter? A young kid who bought the guns and in less than a week was effective enough to take out 20 people, 19 children, hold s police department at bay for 40 min and almost took out a border agent.
I don't even know how to argue this anymore. You guys seem to think a bolt action 30-06 that carries 6 rounds in the clip is the same as a semi-auto AR with 30 in the clip that you can fire as fast you pull the trigger. You clearly have your line in the sand.
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 7:11 am
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:13 am to hikingfan
Here’s the truth. I’ve been in a situation numerous times where people were trapped and inevitably died. Not once did I sit outside and avoid putting my life in danger instead of trying to save them. Some really sketchy situations, times trapping myself and nearly dying getting to them. And I still lived with survivors guilt. I still questioned whether we did enough.
I’m pro-police, but that is an embarrassment. As a public servant you take an oath. It’s called putting your life on the line for a reason. If you’re not okay with putting your life up as collateral to save another human, then you’re in the wrong profession. It’s not a tough guy thing or above anyone, it’s a job you chose.
I’ve lost kids before, those guys are in for a nightmare of ptsd, if they have a conscience.
I’m not saying I’m better than any one of those guys, I’m not sure what it’s like being a cop, but shame on them. That’s all.
I’m pro-police, but that is an embarrassment. As a public servant you take an oath. It’s called putting your life on the line for a reason. If you’re not okay with putting your life up as collateral to save another human, then you’re in the wrong profession. It’s not a tough guy thing or above anyone, it’s a job you chose.
I’ve lost kids before, those guys are in for a nightmare of ptsd, if they have a conscience.
I’m not saying I’m better than any one of those guys, I’m not sure what it’s like being a cop, but shame on them. That’s all.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:13 am to Solo Cam
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To me there should be no age limit on purchase or having a shotgun or hunting rifle with a 6 round magazine max. You should be 21 to purchase a handgun or assault rifle and 18 to posses.
Found the Fudd
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:22 am to Solo Cam
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when's the last time a car drove into a school and ran over 20 kids?
I think it was last year when some a-hole drove through a market. Might have been this year.
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 7:23 am
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:25 am to Solo Cam
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why the frick do you need an assault rifle?
To defend ourselves against the government or anyone else who comes to take our freedom. Duh.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:31 am to Solo Cam
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I would say any caliber above .22lr that has a magazine that carry's an excess of 10+ rounds.
Yes, but you would be incorrect in terms of reality. ATF has defined an assault rifle as a select fire weapon. What you say or think is not really of any consequence here.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:34 am to LSUcajun77
quote:Thank you for your service.
Here’s the truth. I’ve been in a situation numerous times where people were trapped and inevitably died. Not once did I sit outside and avoid putting my life in danger instead of trying to save them. Some really sketchy situations, times trapping myself and nearly dying getting to them. And I still lived with survivors guilt. I still questioned whether we did enough
quote:Bingo, either they're scum or this is going to destroy them mentally.
I’m pro-police, but that is an embarrassment. As a public servant you take an oath. It’s called putting your life on the line for a reason. If you’re not okay with putting your life up as collateral to save another human, then you’re in the wrong profession. It’s not a tough guy thing or above anyone, it’s a job you chose. I’ve lost kids before, those guys are in for a nightmare of ptsd, if they have a conscience.
During the Spanish American war there's a story that when the men were leaving Missouri the woman told them- we would rather you die a man than return a coward.
This attitude has been with us since Sparta and the war on masculinity unfortunately has caused too many men to become a shell of what made us great.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:39 am to BR92
quote:Your 100% right what I say or think truly doesn't matter.
Yes, but you would be incorrect in terms of reality. ATF has defined an assault rifle as a select fire weapon. What you say or think is not really of any consequence here.
If nomenclature is your main concern would you be ok with those same weapons not being called an assault rifle? What if there was a new term- "high capacity weapons"
Again- I'm all for more production and purchase of these rifles. Just after this I think we owe it to these children to at least evaluate the situation and have a conversation.
To me- however that young man legally obtained two AR's is an issue we at least have to look at.
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 7:46 am
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:40 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:This is dumb. I am for zero additional gun laws, but what you said is dumb
It has zero to do with guns. There’s not even a cogent argument that says guns are the problem.
In England, that 18 year old isn’t going to be able to get the guns, which makes it extremely harder for this to happen, so the shithead hangs himself instead
Look, you cant argue otherwise, and to deny the obvious makes one look weak. Kids in Europe have the same warped social media and current media state upbringing, but they aren’t committing mass killings. Why is that?
However, their suicide rate is right in line with the US
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 7:42 am
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