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re: The U.S. Becomes World’s Top LNG Exporter

Posted on 7/25/22 at 9:01 pm to
Posted by regulater
Haile
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/25/22 at 9:01 pm to
What ever happen to autos running on compressed Nat. Gas? Why not on liquified gas until gasoline can catch up with more refineries.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38481 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 9:08 pm to
Lots of fleet vehicles and public transportation are running on natural gas.
This post was edited on 7/25/22 at 9:23 pm
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21206 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 9:10 pm to
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What ever happen to autos running on compressed Nat. Gas?


There are some natural gas stations for autos here and there, but same issue (maybe greater) than the EV charging stations. Lack of infrastructure, especially privately-owned infrastructure.

Municipalities have gas infrastructure and there's power infrastructure for municipal needs, but charging stations and CNC stations would be privately owned (unless we want government getting into that business).

For it to be efficient and plentiful for refills when needed, you've got to have an extensive pipeline network, and much more than we have now. Think powerlines throughout municipalities, you'd need more gas pipelines like that. And depending on who's talking, pipelines could be "evil". (Though people never seem to shut them off from their homes during winter time.)
This post was edited on 7/25/22 at 9:12 pm
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36603 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 9:17 pm to
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What ever happen to autos running on compressed Nat. Gas?


As others said some fleets run it but it basically requires a government handout to build onsite fill for your trucks. I had an ops manager break down how they justified it. I couldn’t tell you the numbers off the top of my head but even with the government money it required diesel to be high to break even or save money

The beer vendors I use to work with all have it. They also were extremely well connected politically, so you can do the math there.

Logistically it only makes sense when you have the same routes every day
This post was edited on 7/25/22 at 9:20 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118734 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 9:33 pm to
Approximately 2 billion more cubic feet of LNG about to come online in Lake Charles in a year or so with the new Driftwood LNG facility.
Posted by Mariner
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jul 2009
1935 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 9:40 pm to
When I worked on commercial ships 12-15 years ago, they were building that LNG facility in Lake Charles. Has that facility been expanded? Are there additional facilities to be built? Anyone work there or deal with them?

When I worked offshore one of the guys left to take a job in Lake Charles for a chemical plant or similar. It was not built yet and he was going to receive formal training for two years until it opened. Which facility is that? This was about 5 years ago.
This post was edited on 7/25/22 at 9:41 pm
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
3332 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 9:46 pm to
It’s too bad all the financial headquarters for these firms are in Houston yet operate out of Louisiana
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58113 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 9:51 pm to
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When I worked on commercial ships 12-15 years ago, they were building that LNG facility in Lake Charles.


I remember being down that way several years ago and I thought one of the locals told me that the original LNG facility built in that area was for importing it. Is that true or am I just remembering wrong?
Posted by redstick13
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Member since Feb 2007
38481 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 9:52 pm to
You have Cameron LNG (x2) and Venture Global in the Calcasieu and Chenier in the Sabine with more in the works.
Link to pdf
This post was edited on 7/25/22 at 9:54 pm
Posted by TigerPaw7
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2021
363 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 9:58 pm to
Charif Souki, chairman of Tellurian, has repeatedly said lately that Driftwood is on schedule to have LNG on the water in the first quarter of 2026. The output capacity of phase 1 of 3 planned is already spoken for. The earthworks and pile driving is happening now at the construction site. They started construction this past spring. Long way to go but it will be the largest LNG facility in the US once all 3 phases are done.
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
2944 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 10:10 pm to
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You have Cameron LNG (x2) and Venture Global in the Calcasieu and Chenier in the Sabine with more in the works.
Link to pdf

VeNture Global Plaquemines is well under construction. Lots of dirt being moved and a huge wall being built. Impressive project.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21206 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 10:12 pm to
And Sabine LNG. Think that's a JV between Exxon and a foreign outfit.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58113 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 10:13 pm to
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Impressive project.


Yeah I drove by it a few weeks ago and couldn’t believe the amount of equipment out there and the size of the area.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28898 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 10:17 pm to
Gas was under $2 a gallon under trump.‘Biden hiked it up to $5. fricking idiots voted for Biden.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27322 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 10:20 pm to
It should be America First but Joe is using our tax money to give it away.

Meanwhile Entergy is buttfricking everyone in the state of LA.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21206 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 10:29 pm to
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Gas was under $2 a gallon under trump.


I will never defend the Biden Administration on any of their energy policies (or lack thereof, because honestly they don't have an official policy), but the average US monthly price of gasoline has been under $2 for only four months since March 2009, and there's a primary reason why it was under that mark for April and May of 2020, and if you think Donald Trump was the primary reason, then you're an idiot.

Learn supply & demand. Take an economics class.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9302 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 7:34 am to
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I remember being down that way several years ago and I thought one of the locals told me that the original LNG facility built in that area was for importing it. Is that true or am I just remembering wrong?

They are all export facilities. LNG export is profitable because natural gas is cheaper in the US than abroad. There’s no economic driver for LNG imports in the US.

We do import a VERY small amount from Trinidad, for some reason. I suspect it’s just because we are the closest market and Trinidad has to export as LNG no matter what. But that volume is minuscule.. like <0.001% of our exports.
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