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re: The technology envisioned by Elizabeth Holmes - Theranos

Posted on 6/19/21 at 6:31 pm to
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
4750 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 6:31 pm to
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Well she had patents on top of patents that I believe even when peer review was considered Impressive AF by industry.


The world would have you believe that the tits and arse got her the investors. When I see the improbable get that much investment all I can think of is money laundering.
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
4736 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 6:41 pm to
...get that much investment all I can think of is money laundering.

I agree with you and while I don't feel like being on the Arkansas who's who list, it absolutely does makes you wonder about Slick Willy and Cackle's foundation for starters. They were all over Theranos like flies on doo doo.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
10851 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 6:51 pm to
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MDs really wouldn't know much about Blood Analysis.


It’s right down the wheel house of many MDs and MD/PhDs and Theranos was exposed by an MD.

This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 6:52 pm
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
2637 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 7:00 pm to
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Con investors for billions of dollars on promises impossible with today's technology?


The woman is a sociopath, which was proven when she arrived at her trial pregnant (studies show juries are far more lenient when a defendant is pregnant).
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
4836 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 7:07 pm to
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this blood stuff should be more advanced based off of Theranos already laying down a road map.


I think you missed the point of everything you read/heard about Theranos. They couldn't get any tech to work, which means they didn't really contribute to any road map.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21397 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 7:23 pm to
PhDs in medical technology or pathologist. Not MDs in general
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28250 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 7:31 pm to
You’re a bit of a dumbass.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
9686 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 8:05 pm to
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When I see the improbable get that much investment all I can think of is money laundering.


How is this money laundering?
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
4736 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 8:05 pm to
Thanks for your kind words. Now try not to double dribble your graham crackers while the grownups discuss the topic at hand. That wax paper is a mutha, isn't it. You can do it you special little man.
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8766 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 8:06 pm to
It’s simply impossible to perform 100s of tests on a single droplet of blood. That was her whole premise and while conceptually it’s appealing it’s just not possible.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29424 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 8:10 pm to
From what I can understand, it takes much more blood than a small vial to run numerous tests.

Hell, when I was trying to be a kidney donor for my brother, they took 19 vials of blood from me at one time to run numerous tests. There’s just no way to run numerous tests with only one small vial of blood right now.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11070 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 8:18 pm to
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It’s simply impossible to perform 100s of tests on a single droplet of blood. That was her whole premise and while conceptually it’s appealing it’s just not possible.

Yes, venal samples are necessary as opposed to capillary samples. She might as well have patented a Star Trek medical tricorder.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 9:55 pm to
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MDs really wouldn't know much about Blood Analysis.


For real. For that kind of work, you want a Microsoft Certified Professional, or maybe some guy from the Home Depot parking lot.
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
5630 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 10:00 pm to
Elizabeth Holmes did NOT envision any technology.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17218 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 10:07 pm to
You’re legit stupid.

Why don’t they just invent a pill that cures everything with one dose made for less than 3 cents?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98164 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 10:22 pm to
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Until certain aspects of nanotech become reality instead of theories, we'll just have to wait.


Scanning noninvasively using light waves or ultrasound.
Posted by macjonesgoat
Member since Feb 2021
898 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:06 pm to
No worries.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
4750 posts
Posted on 6/20/21 at 7:33 am to
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When I see the improbable get that much investment all I can think of is money laundering.

How is this money laundering?


With billions in spending some of the investment(which is drug money) is routed back to the cartels through various "service providers" and low level employees.

Do you even Ozark bro?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72051 posts
Posted on 6/20/21 at 7:41 am to
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Yes, venal samples are necessary as opposed to capillary samples.
It isn’t even venous vs capillary.

One of the biggest issues is volume. You can run labs off of capillary samples (some), although accuracy is “iffy” at times.

This blood isn’t just put in a machine and “computer magic” happens.

For certain tests, the blood is mixed with a chemical, others the blood is heated, maybe it’s irradiated, etc.

You cannot perform multiple tests on the same blood sample since one test may require its destruction.

Until we have nanotechnology or Star Trek scanners, Theranos is a pipe dream of epic proportions.

That was apparent in Holmes’ complete inability to understand the topic since she had zero medical/chemistry/biology knowledge.
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
4736 posts
Posted on 6/20/21 at 11:26 am to
Because there’s no money in an outright panacea you ignorant stinky pussy ho. Now go look up what panacea is you Tennessee whore.
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