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re: The technology envisioned by Elizabeth Holmes - Theranos

Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
9686 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:37 pm to
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Thoughts? Get in now before we fund the C round and the train leaves the station.


Who do I make the check out to?
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
8117 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:37 pm to
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Isn't this blood analysis by a small finger prick basically just a gold mine for a real company like Lab Corp or whomever to actually make work?


No. Because a small finger prick for blood analysis to "make it a gold mine" is not valid, even on a conceptual level. The only thing her granted patents are good for is evidence in proving her guilt at trial.

Patent fraud
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
8117 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:39 pm to
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Her body is toight like a tiger.


Steve Jobs has a better body. In its current state.

#nohomo.
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 2:40 pm
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48836 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:39 pm to
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And she isn't even remotely attractive.



But what a voice.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260191 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:39 pm to
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you know that the tech never worked and she outsourced their testing to conventional labs, right?


People suckered in have no one to blame but themselves. When things appear too good to be true, it usually is..

I think people were dazzled by her and didn't dig very deeply.
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
4736 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:47 pm to
Make your check out to Richard Branson. He turned SPACs into space stuff and now has the largest worldwide DNA database as of June 17th 2021, and is talking about future SPACs that look at next-gen genomics powered by AI. Sorry, that's Sir Richard Branson.
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
72596 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:47 pm to
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Yes I'm aware she outsourced it to the reliable dinosaur machines she purchased. I am looking at this more from the angle of the actual vision, not really her "fake it till you make it" reality. Thought I conveyed that in my OP intro by conceding the facts of what was to come with her. I swear some of you really need to go back to that reading comprehension portion of the ACT as a teen where your brain was trained to dissect the subject matter, imho.


While we are riding the bus to return to English, as teenagers, the bold should clearly be NEW paragraph. Further, if several readers here failed to grasp the poorly constructed theme of your OP, is there any chance it could be just you at fault and not many others?

Just a concept I had.
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
4736 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:50 pm to
Thanks for your concept. There should be an "a" before NEW.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72051 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:51 pm to
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Isn't this blood analysis by a small finger prick basically just a gold mine for a real company like Lab Corp or whomever to actually make work?
Her view is literally impossible.

Certain tests require heating the blood, chemical reactions, radiating, etc.

You cannot do that with a “drop of blood”.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23059 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:54 pm to
Since Star Trek already laid down the road map for teleportation it seems like it would be an absolute gold mine for a real company like Space X or whomever actually makes it work.

Thoughts?
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
6163 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:57 pm to
MDs really wouldn't know much about Blood Analysis.

Chemists and Biologists are who would know.

The issue with very small samples of anything is detection/limit of quantitation.

Sure it would be great. But, many different analyses would need huge improvement
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26478 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:58 pm to
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Theranos already laying down a road ma


She laid the road map of using other devices for results to dupe investors...

Holmes was a fricking con artist.

Will this happen one day? Who knows?
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 3:00 pm
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9044 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 3:02 pm to
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People suckered in have no one to blame but themselves. When things appear too good to be true, it usually is..

I think people were dazzled by her and didn't dig very deeply.


People were so obsessed with the notion of this young woman being the first female Steve Jobs/Bill Gates/Elon Musk/etc. that they didn’t bother to do even the most basic homework. The zealot-like commitment to virtue signaling was what allowed Holmes to get away with as much as she did.
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 10:40 pm
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
4736 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 3:03 pm to
I thought scientists already uncovered that information could be passed between photons on computer chips, so quantum teleportation is no longer just a hypothetical.
As for a real company like Space X making this work for future profits, I would tell Elon not to dilute his shareholders with this burden of R&D $. Let a SPAC take a vertical market public and tackle it that way.
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
5558 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 3:04 pm to
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This question is for the OT medical smart muthas out there: It seems pretty obvious that the actual vision of Theranos was brilliant, never mind the small details of massive wire fraud and RICO corruption and all those other nominal infractions. Isn't this blood analysis by a small finger prick basically just a gold mine for a real company like Lab Corp or whomever to actually make work? Just seems to me like these new advances in AI and 23andMe and these other companies, this blood stuff should be more advanced based off of Theranos already laying down a road map. Thoughts?


Read Bad Blood. Holmes is a fraud, as was Theranos. The fact she’s not in jail yet just confirms again a two tiered justice system.
Posted by macjonesgoat
Member since Feb 2021
898 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 3:09 pm to
Well the general idea of being able to use a smaller amount of blood to test for certain things would be worth a lot if feasible. Pricking a finger being less painful than then a venus is absurd though. You have much more nerve endings in your thumb/hands then your elbow. Regardless something that would have helped her is a degree in biomedical engineering from Stanford.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
21125 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 3:30 pm to
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Con investors for billions of dollars on promises impossible with today's technology?


Oh sure, noowwwww you tell me. Where were you when that gravelly voiced, deathly pale, nerdy vixen waltzed into my life?
Posted by MBclass83
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
9352 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 4:01 pm to
Sorry for the downvote. A mistake
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
4736 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 4:03 pm to
First they down vote you, then they call it a mistake, then you change the world!
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21397 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 6:18 pm to
She was pretty “close” but clia does not deal with pretty close at all. They are strict down to the tenths of a degree and do not make exceptions. Therefore, her instruments could not pass validations that were performed correctly. Results were falsified and you really can’t get away with that with that.
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