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The technology envisioned by Elizabeth Holmes - Theranos
Posted on 6/19/21 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 6/19/21 at 1:47 pm
This question is for the OT medical smart muthas out there: It seems pretty obvious that the actual vision of Theranos was brilliant, never mind the small details of massive wire fraud and RICO corruption and all those other nominal infractions. Isn't this blood analysis by a small finger prick basically just a gold mine for a real company like Lab Corp or whomever to actually make work? Just seems to me like these new advances in AI and 23andMe and these other companies, this blood stuff should be more advanced based off of Theranos already laying down a road map. Thoughts?
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 1:48 pm
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Posted on 6/19/21 at 1:49 pm to Tomatocantender
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small details of massive wire fraud and RICO corruption and all those other nominal infractions.
And the actual technical part of it.
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Theranos already laying down a road map
An idea is not a road map.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 1:50 pm to Tomatocantender
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vision of Theranos was brilliant
Con investors for billions of dollars on promises impossible with today's technology?
Posted on 6/19/21 at 1:51 pm to xXLSUXx
Well she had patents on top of patents that I believe even when peer review was considered Impressive AF by industry.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 1:54 pm to Tomatocantender
Those tests are already being done on a relatively small sample amount. Plus specimen collection for a smaller sample introduces some error due to tissue fluids. IV samples are much better. It's complicated.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 1:54 pm to Tomatocantender
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peer review was considered Impressive AF by industry.
They weren't.
R&D in the pharma industry is around $200 BILLION annually. People are working on it. There are physical limitations with todays technologies. That's the bottom line. Until certain aspects of nanotech become reality instead of theories, we'll just have to wait.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 1:55 pm to Tomatocantender
The technology in science fiction books are pretty incredible as well. It’s a shame none of it amounts to anything
Posted on 6/19/21 at 1:55 pm to Tomatocantender
you know that the tech never worked and she outsourced their testing to conventional labs, right?
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:10 pm to northshorebamaman
Yes I'm aware she outsourced it to the reliable dinosaur machines she purchased. I am looking at this more from the angle of the actual vision, not really her "fake it till you make it" reality. Thought I conveyed that in my OP intro by conceding the facts of what was to come with her. I swear some of you really need to go back to that reading comprehension portion of the ACT as a teen where your brain was trained to dissect the subject matter, imho.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:11 pm to Tomatocantender
Except she didn’t know how to actually do what she said it did. I don’t think you got the entire story of what went on there. It was all a fraud.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:15 pm to Tomatocantender
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It seems pretty obvious that the actual vision of Theranos was brilliant
Her vision was to produce one small machine to do all the tests that dozens of machines already do. That’s the extent of her genius.
If your vision is to produce a car that gets 200mpg and you get as far as driving around in a Prius and claiming to get 200mpg, are you brilliant? Because that’s exactly what they did.
This post was edited on 6/19/21 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:16 pm to iAmBatman
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The technology in science fiction books are pretty incredible as well. It’s a shame none of it amounts to anything
Tell that to Jules Verne.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:17 pm to BigB0882
Of course it was wire fraud. There are also ethical (possible criminal) charges of when she tried to use her Edison machine on real life cancer patients and doctors relying on 70% or more of their decisions based on blood baselines. And there's literally a Federal trial going on as we speak about this. The angle I was inquiring about was...nevermind...you either got it or you don't...happy Juneteenth.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:19 pm to Tomatocantender
Dude, what angle? Her "vision"? It's was 100% complete impossible bullshite with today's tech. Forget anything about wire fraud. It was all fraud
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:20 pm to Tomatocantender
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This question is for the OT medical smart muthas out there: It seems pretty obvious that the actual vision of Theranos was brilliant, never mind the small details of massive wire fraud and RICO corruption and all those other nominal infractions.
The fact that the technology didn’t exist to do what she said the product could do is most definitely not small or nominal.
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Isn't this blood analysis by a small finger prick basically just a gold mine for a real company like Lab Corp or whomever to actually make work?
Sure, but again, if this technology was actually a thing. You think they didn’t even look into it once they knew Theranos was a giant fraud? If it could be done they would be doing it.
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Just seems to me like these new advances in AI and 23andMe and these other companies, this blood stuff should be more advanced based off of Theranos already laying down a road map. Thoughts?
Not sure what 23andMe has to do with this. DNA testing and genetic mapping are not the same as testing for dozens if not hundreds of medical issues. And most importantly, what road map did Theranos lay out? The machines literally NEVER did what she claimed they could do. There was no new technology, just a hope and a dream.
So no, our reading comprehension is not the problem.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:21 pm to Tomatocantender
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The angle I was inquiring about was...nevermind...you either got it or you don't...happy Juneteenth.
Lol you’re clearly the one that doesn’t “get it”, there was nothing impressive about her vision
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:21 pm to Tomatocantender
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Thoughts?
Sure am glad some nameless Neanderthal tens-of-thousands of years ago thought to himself, “damn, it’s hot out here. Sure would be nice to be cooler.” He obviously deserves credit for A/C.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:23 pm to Tomatocantender
I'm nowhere near being a medical smart mutha, but I know a worthless, psycopathic c-unt when I see one.
Nothing she did was remotely brilliant. She took advantage of a ridiculous patent office examination process that allows applicants to patent ideas regardless if they work as intended.
There isn't anything she patented, much less invented, that survived a legitimate peer review or that had any viability in the real world.
Her actions directly caused cancer patients to alter their treatments in numerous cases. The bitch should be shot in the face with an AIDS arrow while burning in a fire.
And she isn't even remotely attractive.
Lets frick over people with cancer
Nothing she did was remotely brilliant. She took advantage of a ridiculous patent office examination process that allows applicants to patent ideas regardless if they work as intended.
There isn't anything she patented, much less invented, that survived a legitimate peer review or that had any viability in the real world.
Her actions directly caused cancer patients to alter their treatments in numerous cases. The bitch should be shot in the face with an AIDS arrow while burning in a fire.
And she isn't even remotely attractive.
Lets frick over people with cancer
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:32 pm to Basura Blanco
No one is debating her c u next tuesday worthiness. But as far as looks, I've done much, much worse and would actually argue she gets an OT rating and not a WYHI. Her body is toight like a tiger.
Posted on 6/19/21 at 2:36 pm to Tomatocantender
I have this idea, that if you concentrate hard enough, you can take air steps and climb into space.
Thoughts? Get in now before we fund the C round and the train leaves the station.
Thoughts? Get in now before we fund the C round and the train leaves the station.
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