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re: The state sanctioned mafia known as River Pilots are shaking down the chemical industry

Posted on 4/3/18 at 8:54 pm to
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20580 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 8:54 pm to
If it was only that easy. You know someone hiring?
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 8:57 pm to

Not the ones I’ve interacted with at some Plants.
This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 8:58 pm
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 8:59 pm to
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Did he apply?

What don’t you understand? He wasn’t family.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:04 pm to
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What don’t you understand? He wasn’t family.


What a terrible dilemna, Cincinnati Bowtie.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68620 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:06 pm to
My brother is a river pilot. He knew no one. Just applied and got the job. He lives in a big arse house in the U-Club now.

Loves his job. Loves rubbing in how he makes a ton of money and doesn’t do shite. No stress.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:09 pm to
He should probably quit and let someone else take his job. Because he wasn't hired correctly.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43957 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:09 pm to
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How difficult can it be to navigate a wide, dredged, well marked river channel? 


Pretty damn tough. You ever steered a boat with 20,000 tonnes of cargo on it?


Not since I took your sister out on the river on my pontoon boat in high school.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91362 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:12 pm to
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He should probably quit and let someone else take his job. Because he wasn't hired correctly.




Did you miss the acceptance rates for related pilots vs non-related applicants previously?
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:14 pm to
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Did you miss the acceptance rates for related pilots vs non-related applicants previously?


Yes, I went about my life.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:19 pm to
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You ever steered a boat with 20,000 tonnes of cargo on it?



Not since I took your sister out on the river on my pontoon boat in high school.


Ok.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
50052 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 10:13 pm to
Alright
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
50052 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 10:14 pm to
Yep. If you have a bit of experience
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20580 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:58 am to
As a DD no but worked for big blue doing completions work overs and P&A in deep water.
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 6:09 am to
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Pretty damn tough. You ever steered a boat with 20,000 tonnes of cargo on it?

That’s the thing, they’re NOT steering. They sit there while someone else actually does the job.
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
3256 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 6:36 am to
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That’s the thing, they’re NOT steering. They sit there while someone else actually does the job.

Pretty sure you are wrong and know nothing about how ships are steered. I posed this question to a pilot friend and this is the text I got back. "Yes the ship,has a helmsman that actually holds the wheel and steers. That takes 100 percent concentration and that person can do nothing else while they are steering. Ships want to swing all over and require constant input to the wheel. The longest that the helmsman stays on the wheel is an hour or two without being relieved. The pilot gives direct orders to the helmsman On how much to turn the rudder and and occasionally will give him a small course change to steer to by a number. The helmsman has no other job at that time except making sure the ship stays on that course or taking direct input for a turn from the pilot. The pilot is working on meeting traffic and possible scenarios for the next several miles. Ships take miles to stop and meeting arrangements must be considered sometimes hours in advance depending on the vessels meeting. When the ship approaches a dock the pilot has full control over the steering, engine orders and tugs as well as telling what lines to be put out in what order. When in pilotage waters, the Captain of the vessel is usually the one sitting and watching, working on paperwork or maybe a even sleeping."
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 7:03 am
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
2231 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 7:49 am to
All of that is true.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 9:49 am to
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All of that is true.
Yup

FTR,

- My cousin's ex is about to be one = not family, went to SUNY
- Sister's ex's dad = not family, been one for a long time
- Sister's good friend is at A&M is on track to become one = family
- Grew up with people who are in "families". Both were basically recruited. One because he grew up driving boats, and his sister because she was a girl. He is, she isn't


You just have to meet the right people, not be a complete a-hole, etc. Everyone I know nowadays that is becoming one goes to a maritime college and has worked on boats for a few years either overseas or in WA or NY
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 9:54 am
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