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re: The scumbag side of General Douglas McArthur
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:43 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:43 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:What is the breakdown as a percentage of American combatants?
Indeed. But you have to remember, the criteria for earning the MoH in the Civil War wasn’t the same as what we know today. Here’s a breakdown, by war of how many MoH were earned in each war since the creation of the award in 1861:
Civil War: 1,522
Indian Campaigns: 426
Spanish-American War: 110
World War I: 124
World War II: 464
Korean War: 133
Vietnam War: 246
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:43 pm to prplhze2000
Truman should have let Mac nuke China
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:52 pm to prplhze2000
George Patton was apparently a prick. My grandfather always said that if he'd had the chance to be in the room alone with Patton, he'd have shot him in the head. (As would have most of the men in my grandfather's unit.)
Posted on 5/17/25 at 9:05 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Yep, he demanded Peleliu to be invaded instead of passed over because of his coming invasion of the Philippines. It wasn’t necessary and cost the US Marines thousands of casualties. Peleliu should’ve been passed over like so many other islands.
Posted on 5/17/25 at 10:52 pm to LCrox
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Believe they are only father -son recipients of the Medal of Honor.
Teddy Roosevelt and one sons also were awarded the MOH.
Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:35 pm to dinosaur
The Army vet I worked with told me they were given orders to not damage McArthur's hotel there in Manilla. He said they went out of their way to shoot it full of holes. 

Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:44 am to StanSmith
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Believe they are only father -son recipients of the Medal of Honor.
Not sure if discussed here as I didn't read the whole thread, but Horn (the Author of The Fate of The Generals) gives the account suggesting if not out right saying it that Arthur MacArthur more or less engineered the rewarding of his own Medal of Honor for his actions at Missionary Ridge some 27 years later (I believe it was awarded in 1890) through his position as assistant Adjutant General of the Army in Washington.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 10:03 am to Jim Rockford
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reorganized Japanese culture from the ground up and is largely responsible for it being a democratic, peaceful society today.
Though his legacy is mixed this point can't be emphasized enough. He's held in high regard in Japan still.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 10:08 am to PetroBabich
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He's held in high regard in Japan still.
well I guess so
MacArthur gave the dreaded Unit 731 members of the Japanese Army immunity from war crimes charges after the war in order to get their research on germ warfare and other human experiment results. These murderous psychopaths escaped justice because of MacArthur’s miscalculation. He also refused advice to force Emperor Hirohito to abdicate even though many members of the royal family asked him to force the abdication. Royal family members were not prosecuted for war crimes even though the Emperor and some of the others certainly deserved to be prosecuted.

Posted on 5/18/25 at 10:47 am to 777Tiger
Ok, what was the result? Japan is a peaceful prosperous strong US ally.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 10:51 am to PetroBabich
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Ok, what was the result?
pick and choose your historical rewrites, so is Germany, the Japs were in the same atrocity/crimes against humanity/war crimes league, if not the league leader
Posted on 5/18/25 at 10:56 am to 777Tiger
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pick and choose your historical rewrites
That's all any good historian does

Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:00 am to PetroBabich
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That's all any good historian does
true


Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:04 am to prplhze2000
Lots of really bad American Generals in WW2. Of the 3 star and higher McArthur and Mark Clark come to mind. At the MG level and down too many for a list.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:08 am to 777Tiger
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MacArthur gave the dreaded Unit 731 members of the Japanese Army immunity from war crimes charges after the war in order to get their research on germ warfare and other human experiment results.
So...kind of a Japanese version of Operation Paperclip?
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...book, Lab 257, also by an attorney, Michael Carroll, formerly a law firm associate of the late New York State Governor Mario Cuomo. Using documents he found in the National Archives, he exposes a full story about Plum Island.
He detailed how Erich Traub during World War II was the "lab chief of Insel Riems — a secret Nazi biological warfare laboratory" in the Baltic with a mission in World War II of poisoning cattle in the Soviet Union.
Traub and hundreds of other Nazi scientists among them Wernher von Braun were brought to the U.S. in the U.S. government's "Project Paperclip" after the war.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 12:02 pm to prplhze2000
And who was really the one responsible for this antiquated shite show prior to Pearl Harbor ?
That jackass FDR.
That jackass FDR.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:06 pm to prplhze2000
I had a discussion with a Navy Officer who was there when MacArthur returned to the Philippines. He said MacArthur had them stand on the beach for hours while he got the perfect shot of his return. He hated MacArthur after that.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:09 pm to 777Tiger
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iirc, Mac was behind not prosecuting many high ranking Japanese military officers for some pretty heinous war crimes, including cannabalism of our military officers, and keeping the reigning Jap hierarchy in place for "stabilization"
Which worked pretty fricking well.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:26 pm to prplhze2000
So for all you history buffs, did McArthur deserve the MOH? General Doug that is, not his father.
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