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re: The Savior Elite: Inside the Special Operations Force Tasked with Rescuing Navy SEALS

Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:05 pm to
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:05 pm to
These guys definitely come from a different sawmill.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10429 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:08 pm to
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the Nepalese Gurkhas


Right after the invasion in Iraq, the company I was working for was contracted to replace the pipelines under the Tigris River in Baghdad by directional drilling. I guess blowing up crude lines was one of Saddam's parting gifts. We used these guys as security. You nailed it, they are pretty much savages.
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9281 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:10 pm to
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Right after the invasion in Iraq, the company I was working for was contracted to replace the pipelines under the Tigris River in Baghdad by directional drilling. I guess blowing up crude lines was one of Saddam's parting gifts. We used these guys as security. You nailed it, they are pretty much savages.


Yea, not sure I can even divulge or repeat some of the stories he told me about these guys.These stories are coming from a 6’4, tatted head to toe, 245 pound multiple deployment buddy of mine and he said the entire company wouldn’t really frick with those Nepalese dudes. I don’t have any first hand knowledge of them. Just stories from guys I know.
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 1:14 pm
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:11 pm to
Made it through hell week?
Posted by Poule Deau Gravy
US of A
Member since Aug 2019
133 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:34 pm to
I may be remembering the details wrong, but I want to say it was 10 days of intensive weed out 'exercises' and he made it to day 9 before he dropped out. It's been a few years since we've talked about it.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3702 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:39 pm to
I took care of a retired PJ in ICU ,toughest old guy I ever saw.According to his daughter he was in 82nd Airborne in WW2,jumped into Normandy early morning of D-Day.Also fought in Battle of the Bulge and on to Berlin.
After the war when Air Force split from Army me went with the Air Force as Pararescue,served in Korea and Vietnam Nam and retired with 30 years,lived in San Antonio.He was on his way to New Orleans for grand opening of D-Day museum and got creamed by a log truck on Hwy 28 West (log truck driver at fault).
Had multiple rib fractures on L with punctured lung and had chest tubes and on ventilator.Pelvis also fractured.
I explained to him sign language to use when he needed pain shot,he never asked for one.I would ask him if he was hurting and he would just shrug his shoulders.I would give him pain shots anyway but I would always tell him before and he would again just shrug his shoulders as if to say “ ok,whatever”.He stayed calm and cooperative throughout.
He was unbelievably muscled up,esp. for guy in his late 70’s.His daughter said he believed in keeping in shape.
He made an amazing recovery and went home.Sadly he died less than 2 years later.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19688 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:53 pm to
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Reads more like a CMH citation - probably deserves it.


The Air Force has a weird love/hate relationship with its enlisted fighting force.

It’s probably due to the service’s history of officers (pilots) being in combat rather than enlisted people on the ground. When I was AD I saw some guys do some pretty amazing things in battle outside the wire but they never got so much as an achievement medal. Just one of those things.

This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 1:56 pm
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 2:43 pm to
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Made it through hell week?


That's the SEALS
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
8736 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:28 pm to
Yeah I saw pipeline and immediately thought BUD/s. Might have been Indoc he was in. PJ training is more strenuous water confidence.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:29 pm to
PJs and CROs get looked down on by other branches too, it seems. They are viewed by some as glorified ambulance drivers.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
8736 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:31 pm to
I don’t think that’s accurate. PJs are highly trained in everything. Their attrition rate is higher than BUD/s.

If you have a PJ attached to your unit, you’re in great hands.
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 3:31 pm
Posted by DOPEman
Austin, Tejas
Member since Sep 2018
245 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:40 pm to
Yeah but 18d's and the like like to talk shite
"something something, slam 200mg/ket IM, slap on a chest seal and call for exfil" That kind of stuff.
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
2867 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:42 pm to
I knew a PJ when I worked as a contractor over in Saudi. He was Vietnam era and was one of the nicest, quietest guys you could ever meet. And while he was in his mid to late 40's when I knew him he was still as powerful a human being as I have ever known.

I have been around several active and retired Army Spec Ops guys growing up. While I knew all of these guys were true badasses none of them ever gave me quite the chill that my coworker in Saudi gave me when he looked directly at you.

I never asked him about Nam, and he never spoke of anything during his two tours there, but it was plainly obvious he had a left a part of his soul there. I can't imagine what he had seen/done to affect such an unbelievably strong character such as his.

My greatest regret during my time in was not trying out for the PJ/CCT test. Don't know if I would have made it or not but just the thought of the water test was enough to keep me from giving it a shot. My hat is off to all the Spec Ops guys, in all the services, but I know that all PJ's and CCT's are much more than a cut above.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
8736 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:44 pm to
Yeah that’s true lol. They are all bad arse in their own right.

The Air Force is actually expanding how they use PJs. Some are getting sniper school now. Pretty cool.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98181 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:50 pm to
Combat Weather is now Special Reconnaisance. What exactly that entails is a bit murky. Not sure the AF has figured it out yet other than wanting a bigger slice of the SOF pie.
Posted by DOPEman
Austin, Tejas
Member since Sep 2018
245 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:57 pm to
Interesting, wonder which schoolhouse they're going to.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
8736 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 4:00 pm to
Not sure. I heard it in a Podcast with Heath Kerns, he’s a CRO and said he sent one of his guys to sniper school.

Thought that was interesting for PJ
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9281 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 4:08 pm to
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PJs and CROs get looked down on by other branches too, it seems. They are viewed by some as glorified ambulance drivers.


I think that’s more just the Air Force that gets looked down on. I respected the PJs. Their pipeline is no joke. The other pipelines teach you to become a critical skills operator. The PJs learn to be an operator and then a damn good field medic on top of it. Like I said, nothing but respeck for those dudes. They are skinny though lol.
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 5:40 pm
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 7:07 pm to
That’s probably fair to say.
Posted by Bigbee Hills
Member since Feb 2019
1531 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 8:22 pm to
The night crowd downvoted me to hell and back awhile back for not agreeing with their sentiment that the PJ's were glorified medics.

My cousin is a PJ, and is in his 20s with 2 purple hearts and a Silver Star- they are some bad dudes. Their #1 priority is to get your arse out, and if they have to light Charlie's arse up to do it, they will, and they can...with extreme efficiency.
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